Wonnangatta Couple from Drouin ??

boobook

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"Here we go fellas, Lunch. 2 ham and cheese rolls, 3 chicken and salad, and 1 salami and tomato. Who's the dickhead who ordered Sushi? I had to go into Wangaratta to get that."
 

Petunia

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"Here we go fellas, Lunch. 2 ham and cheese rolls, 3 chicken and salad, and 1 salami and tomato. Who's the dickhead who ordered Sushi? I had to go into Wangaratta to get that."
Not I, Sarg, I don't do Sushi .... fish stink on rice with seaweed, vomit on toast would be better!!

now back to digging holes with shovels or spades or why not hire a backhoe? but not a excavator, because we all know truckies can not say esscavator ... :cool:

revised theory ; It was not William the Concreter..... it was a gang of council workers, after all there was at least 2 shovels to lean on, meaning there was at least 3 of the alleged perpetrators, only one will actually be doing anything.:cool:
 

Baggs71

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It looks like they did find a hammer in this evidence bag. Looking at the creases in bag it appears to be a ball pein hammer. If only we could see the worn paint off the hammer it could tell us if William the left handed concreter ever used the ball part of the ball pein hammer to drive a nail in. View attachment 71303
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Patriot

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From todays news.com.au article.

The mystery of two campers missing in the Victorian wilderness for more than a year has taken another turn, with detectives redirecting the search back to the campgrounds where the pair first vanished from.

Police moved their search 80km northwest to the Mount Hotham area a fortnight ago, marking the first time the search had strayed from Wonnangatta, where Carol Clay and Russell Hill’s burnt-out campsite was found.
The search then came to an abrupt halt the day after detectives found two shovels in thick bush off the Great Alpine Road on April 14. The shovels were sent off to be forensically examined.

While no clear update was provided on the shovels, Victoria Police said detectives returned to the Wonnangatta area on Monday.

They said investigators would especially focus on areas along the Dargo High Plains Road, Cynthia Range Track, Herne Spur Track and the Wonnangatta Track “as a result of information obtained from previous searches”.

“Missing persons squad detectives are being assisted by the air wing, drone unit, search and rescue and Parks Victoria in conducting detailed searches of roadways, tracks, campgrounds, rivers and cliffs,” the statement read.

“Detectives continue to examine items located during a search of the Mount Hotham area on 14 April to determine if they have any relevance to the investigation.”

Mr Hill and Ms Clay vanished on March 20 during a camping trip in the remote East Gippsland beauty spot, Wonnangatta, 350km east of Melbourne.

Mr Hill left his Drouin home on March 19 before collecting Ms Clay from her home in Pakenham in his white Toyota LandCruiser.

The friends then travelled via Licola, spending one night at Howitt High Plains before heading into Wonnangatta Valley on March 20.

Mr Hill was last heard from the following day via HF radio, stating he was at Wonnangatta Valley in the Victorian Alps when he made the call.

Ms Clay told friends she was heading away and was expecting to return home on March 28 or 29.

Previous reports suggested the pair were high school sweethearts, and Mr Hill’s wife was not aware Ms Clay was joining him on the camping trip.

Investigators were told the pair were camping together at Wonnangatta River near the Wonnangatta camping ground.

Campers found Mr Hill’s vehicle with signs of minor fire damage at their campsite, which was completely destroyed by fire, near Dry River Creek Track in the Wonnangatta Valley on March 21.

“Investigators are also continuing to appeal to anyone who was in the Wonnangatta area around that time, including campers, 4x4 day trippers, hunters, fishermen or trail bike riders, regardless of whether they saw or heard anything,” a Victoria Police spokesperson said.

“Detectives are also keen to speak to anyone who was in the area of Howitt Plains and Zeka Spur Track on 19 or 20 March and the Wonnangatta Valley and Wonnangatta Station between 20-24 March who has not yet made contact with police.”

Detectives also established Mr Hill was camping alone with his LandCruiser in the area of the King Billy and Bluff Track between March 11-13.

Police want to speak to anyone in that area on those dates.

Information was later received about sighting of “an older person or pair” in the Black Snake Creek, Eaglevale River crossing and the Ollies Jump area on March 22-23 – but it has not been established if this was the missing campers.

Detectives have called for anyone in this area, or any older couple who may be these persons, to also come forward.

Anyone who sights Mr Hill or Ms Clay should phone triple-0 immediately.
 

a1bert

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Re the shovels, if found at the top of Mt Hotham, there is a high likely hood they are batching shoves used to shovel snow from around your car in the ski season. They used to leave them on the side of the road!
If so you would not be burying any bodies with them up there as the ground is as hard as hell mostly shale
 

Patriot

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An image of the “vehicle of interest” police hope could hold the key to solving the mystery of the disappearance of campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay.


A photo of the car police are searching for, taken on the Great Alpine Road.


The new theory is that their campsite was not in the best location because there was already someone there. And that someone may have a blue Patrol. Anyone recognise this one?
 

phs

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Fairly good description, can’t remember that last time I saw a blue GU wagon, and with the trailer surely someone will recognise it

hopefully everyone gets some answers soon
 

Albynsw

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A bit surprised it has taken this long to associate this vehicle with the area, remember initially they were looking for a white ute. At least this one is a bit distinctive
Hopefully the lead goes somewhere for them
 

phs

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A bit surprised it has taken this long to associate this vehicle with the area, remember initially they were looking for a white ute. At least this one is a bit distinctive
Hopefully the lead goes somewhere for them
They kept all the details quiet till now

That car in question was seen in the area, a vehicle with a trailer was making a 20 point turn in the area in the middle of the night in question

maybe they had other vehicles to tick off the there list and now there is just this one
 

Triton14

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A bit surprised it has taken this long to associate this vehicle with the area
Yep
They kept all the details quiet till now

That car in question was seen in the area, a vehicle with a trailer was making a 20 point turn in the area in the middle of the night in question

maybe they had other vehicles to tick off the there list and now there is just this one

So 19 months after the effect they now release images & finally got to the blue Patrol with a trailer??
 
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peterfermtech

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Mt Hotham resort has number plate recognition cameras at each end but I am not sure if they are recording all year or just during the season. If this photo is from one of those then it is most likely from the Harrietville side near Gunns Track. The other likely possibilities is security cameras at the old CRB depot or Slateys cutting as these locations would have an embankment on the left hand side heading away from The Dargo High Plains Rd and over Mt Hotham.
 
Mt Hotham resort has number plate recognition cameras at each end but I am not sure if they are recording all year or just during the season. If this photo is from one of those then it is most likely from the Harrietville side near Gunns Track. The other likely possibilities is security cameras at the old CRB depot or Slateys cutting as these locations would have an embankment on the left hand side heading away from The Dargo High Plains Rd and over Mt Hotham.
They do, it looks as the photo came from the the north side camera on the Harrietville side of Hotham. The picture is it was taken very early morning the vehicle must of traveled all night to get there hence the reason the police would have interest in the car, also the reason they have difficulty identifying the car is the sun been at the angle it is in the picture castes a shadow on the number plates on both the trailer and car added that with the sun glare the picture is washed out.

Would love to see the original photo as all the photos I've seen are of poor quality. Want to investigate what looks as the cars number plate has a red color cast over it and the trailer plate has been smeared in photoshop. Why it looks like that don't know but it is what I do when posting pictures of cars the the owner does not want the rego identified.
 

phs

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The original is probably even poorer than what we have seen, surly they have edited the photo as best as possible.

Well if the owner has not come forward as yet I’d take a stage and say they are hiding you would have to live under a rock to not know they are look for a blue GU towing a trailer in the area at that time

I personally would think just searching there vehicle database for blue GU would narrow it down a lot

I think they said it was a petrol patrol which would narrow it down significantly again

Only 1 blue GU with petrol motor for sale in the country and it’s in Vic

just a coincidence but it’s photographed with a trailer next to it!
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ipch

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The original is probably even poorer than what we have seen, surly they have edited the photo as best as possible.

Well if the owner has not come forward as yet I’d take a stage and say they are hiding you would have to live under a rock to not know they are look for a blue GU towing a trailer in the area at that time

I personally would think just searching there vehicle database for blue GU would narrow it down a lot

I think they said it was a petrol patrol which would narrow it down significantly again

Only 1 blue GU with petrol motor for sale in the country and it’s in Vic

just a coincidence but it’s photographed with a trailer next to it!
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Well the colour of the car might be right but deffinately not the right trailer.
 
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