Who to vote for?

[Corndoggy]

Throw this in here as it is a political thing.
Basically.
Tania Plibersek has canned a gold mine project after it passed all the necessary approvals on indigenous sacred land issues, even after the local indigenous people had agreed there was no issues. Apparently some unknown people from somewhere else have come out and said it is a cultural heritage site. It's believed that if they are indigenous they come from another mob with no ties to this area. This means a loss of possibly 800 jobs and the flow on effect of them. They appear to be some greenie type supporters. Another case of native land title being used as a weapon.

 

[Albynsw]

A lot of people won’t be voting for Liberals in the upcoming NSW elections with them failing to put their nominations in on time You have to wonder how such a monumental blunder could even happen?

I am sure those who don’t vote for them are rubbing their hands together with a walk up start but in the bigger picture we all lose. Apart from a lack of choice of leadership options we are left with a group of complacent people who won’t need to work as hard to win our votes. There are some Shires that now don’t even have enough people on the ballot form to create a council

Interesting times……

 

[John U]

A lot of people won’t be voting for Liberals in the upcoming NSW elections with them failing to put their nominations in on time You have to wonder how such a monumental blunder could even happen?

I am sure those who don’t vote for them are rubbing their hands together with a walk up start but in the bigger picture we all lose. Apart from a lack of choice of leadership options we are left with a group of complacent people who won’t need to work as hard to win our votes. There are some Shires that now don’t even have enough people on the ballot form to create a council

Interesting times……

They say competition improves the game. It's a problem that there will be a smaller range of choices in those elections. It's a problem the party couldn't follow basic process. It's a concern they were going to sue the governing body for obeying the rules.

The LNPs performance in parliament this week has been very average.

 

[Fingers in Aus]

A lot of people won’t be voting for Liberals in the upcoming NSW elections with them failing to put their nominations in on time You have to wonder how such a monumental blunder could even happen?

I am sure those who don’t vote for them are rubbing their hands together with a walk up start but in the bigger picture we all lose. Apart from a lack of choice of leadership options we are left with a group of complacent people who won’t need to work as hard to win our votes. There are some Shires that now don’t even have enough people on the ballot form to create a council

Interesting times……

There was chatter yesterday morning on the ABC radio regarding this.

Apparently there was an unusually short time frame to lodge, hence the shortage of candidates and the LNP cock up

 

[Toyasaurus]

What competition?
They are all as self-serving and accountable as each other.

 

[Albynsw]

There was chatter yesterday morning on the ABC radio regarding this.

Apparently there was an unusually short time frame to lodge, hence the shortage of candidates and the LNP cock up

That is just playing the game to save face, if there was any real substance to that in the sense that the rules have been manipulated to favour one party I am sure the legal fraternity would be all over it.

I also note that the Labour and independents managed to lodge their paperwork on time

 

[John U]

What competition?
They are all as self-serving and accountable as each other.

Agree to a certain point. The 2 major parties agree on some important issues where a large number of the Australian public want a point of difference. Support of Israel's actions in Gaza and Support for AUKUS are 2 important ones. On these 2 things I think having 2 major parties means that they're easier for lobbyists/external influences to control. No competition at all on this front.

I don't think that they're all self serving, but I think the 2 major parties have a lot of this element. I'd like to think that the gains to be made by the smaller representatives by being self serving would be noticed by their electors and rejected quick smart. Has been shown to not work already though.

 

[Toyasaurus]

You maybe right.
But people vote for these pratts in the first place, they seem to have little to no memory.
As for AUKUS that was scomo`s alone, he`s the one who hatched that brain storm.
How is it the yanks pay 4 billion for their boats and we get to pay 10 times that much?

 

[Albynsw]

A follow up on how it will roll without LIberal , there are cases of not enough candidates to form council in some areas and others of everyone who is running will just get in, they are calling them stocking fillers.
Not a great outcome for the broader community

Liberals are gone from eight council ballots in Sydney. These ‘stocking-filler’ candidates might have a shot — Guardian Australia

Administrative bungle opens up opportunities for unlikely contenders – including one who hopes to ‘pull off a Steven Bradbury’

apple.news

 

[LongRoad2Go]

A follow up on how it will roll without LIberal , there are cases of not enough candidates to form council in some areas and others of everyone who is running will just get in, they are calling them stocking fillers.
Not a great outcome for the broader community

Liberals are gone from eight council ballots in Sydney. These ‘stocking-filler’ candidates might have a shot — Guardian Australia

Administrative bungle opens up opportunities for unlikely contenders – including one who hopes to ‘pull off a Steven Bradbury’

apple.news

Reckon it will be a nice change - those so-called 'safe Liberal seats' will now go to either right leaning Independent's with their own agendas, or others. It may actually create some beneficial change. No doubt the Premier is keeping a close eye on it too, urging people to vote for Labor candidates i.e. they will get infrastructure funding as a 'thank you'.

 

[Albynsw]

Reckon it will be a nice change - those so-called 'safe Liberal seats' will now go to either right leaning Independent's with their own agendas, or others. It may actually create some beneficial change. No doubt the Premier is keeping a close eye on it too, urging people to vote for Labor candidates i.e. they will get infrastructure funding as a 'thank you'.

But in the process we are now getting people in office who wouldn’t normally be elected by the public with a walkup start
It is good that the Liberals get a big shake up though

 

[LongRoad2Go]

But in the process we are now getting people in office who wouldn’t normally be elected by the public with a walkup start
It is good that the Liberals get a big shake up though

True, but that is, for the most part, a good thing because it's democracy at work. Sure, there could be some crazies in the mix, but that's often better than any dyed-in-the-wool, blinkered party supporter.

Many will see it as a refresh - very long time coming.

 

[Albynsw]

The Greens have aligned themselves with the CFMEU , no doubt chasing the lost Labour Party votes

 

[Toyasaurus]

I don`t know whether to laugh or cry.
WTF.
We are one of the top 3 gas producers in the world, now these Muppet pollies are telling us we have to import LNG from overseas.
Behold they are just about finished the degasification plant in Port Kembler, to stave off a gas shortage that should not be possible.
So the next thing will be, they will tell us that the prices won`t go up, yer right, just like electricity when the sold the infrastructure.

2 questions, how do people keep swallowing these lines of shit.
Why does anyone keep voting these scumbags back into office, just so they can sell us out more and more.


The system is well past FUBAR, time to change it.

Vote 1. None of the above.

 

[discomatt]

I don`t know whether to laugh or cry.
WTF.
We are one of the top 3 gas producers in the world, now these Muppet pollies are telling us we have to import LNG from overseas.
Behold they are just about finished the degasification plant in Port Kembler, to stave off a gas shortage that should not be possible.
So the next thing will be, they will tell us that the prices won`t go up, yer right, just like electricity when the sold the infrastructure.

2 questions, how do people keep swallowing these lines of shit.
Why does anyone keep voting these scumbags back into office, just so they can sell us out more and more.


The system is well past FUBAR, time to change it.

Vote 1. None of the above.

Have a look into the tax the gas companies pay or don’t pay.
That will really get your back up

 

[LongRoad2Go]

Wasn't it Martin Ferguson - unionist and Labor Party flunky - who as the Resources Minister blocked proposals to have domestic gas reserves? And then, (allegedly/apparently) left politics to join the private resource sector ... cynical people would suggest he used his Minister's powers to help his private sector mates and future (lucrative) employment prospects.

The same cynical people may also suggest he is a traitor, deserving of a fatal outcome.

 

[discomatt]

Wasn't it Martin Ferguson - unionist and Labor Party flunky - who as the Resources Minister blocked proposals to have domestic gas reserves? And then, (allegedly/apparently) left politics to join the private resource sector ... cynical people would suggest he used his Minister's powers to help his private sector mates and future (lucrative) employment prospects.

The same cynical people may also suggest he is a traitor, deserving of a fatal outcome.

I thought all politicians did this not just one scum bag

 

[John U]

The same cynical people may also suggest he is a traitor, deserving of a fatal outcome.

Bit over the top. Cool your jets.

Wasn't it Martin Ferguson - unionist and Labor Party flunky - who as the Resources Minister blocked proposals to have domestic gas reserves? And then, (allegedly/apparently) left politics to join the private resource sector ... cynical people would suggest he used his Minister's powers to help his private sector mates and future (lucrative) employment prospects.

This should not be allowed by any politician in their post political employment. Any benefit coming a politicians way, during or after their political term, because of a decision they made, should mean jail time. It happens way too often and is severely detrimental to Australia. AUKUS is a supreme example.

 

[Toyasaurus]

Apparently, he was the one responsible for allowing the legislation to be taxed on profit not revenue, hence no tax paid.
Not just oil and gas but all the O/S companies do it.
Yes, he now works for the oil and gas lobby in Canberra, go figure.

Politics' as well as most of society, no responsibility no accountability.

We should not be in the cost-of-living hole we are in, if these pratts did their jobs properly, IE, public servants, for our interests.
Not there`s.