Who to vote for?

[boobook]

Just logic.


This is rubbish. I posted the explanation above.

That was a biased ABC "Fact check" and did not tell the truth behind the matter.

From that article. Look at the time that negative gearing was in place. It maintains that aboloshing negative gearing only pushed rent up in Sydney and Perth. BUT that is only if you look at the first day it came in, and the last day it came off.

But in every capital city the rents either went up, or it turned declining rents into an increasing trend over the period. The rent lease cycle is usually 1 year which can clearly be seen as rent increases as the rents came off leases. The upward trend lasted for about the same period after negative gearing was returned but would have kept rising if it was left in place. Also investors left the market then rejoined, again these are up to 12 month delayed responses.

The ABC only presented part of the facts. It is not correct and biased like so many ABC fact checks.

 

[Albynsw]

Just logic.

Might seem like logic to you but I think it is more logical to provide a framework that supports people to help themselves rather than just standing with their hand out expecting someone else to deal with their problems. I am 100% in favour of supporting those who genuinely need assistance but not providing an environment where it is an alternative lifestyle choice for some. It becomes a slow degradation of our society

I think it is still better to encourage the private sector to play a large part in providing the housing as it costs the community much less money, is more diverse in nature and spread throughout the community rather than housing areas as we have seen that easily become second class slum style areas which is no good for the wider community or the inhabitants of the properties.

 

[John U]

Stadium Tasmania.

 

[mikehzz]

They're using the movie Field of Dreams principle...Build it and they will come.

 

[cam04]

Stadium Tasmania.

My wife is a public service director. She laughs so hard she has asthma attacks watching Utopia.

 

[cookie64]

My wife is a public service director. She laughs so hard she has asthma attacks watching Utopia.

I have been told by several colleagues working in both State and Federal Government that I really need to watch it, they reckon they must have someone on the inside providing content.

 

[boobook]

The labor economic geniuses are at it again. Prepare for a drop in your super funds value.

Banks and fundies fear franking credit hit

Franked dividends paid to shareholders could be disallowed by the Tax Office under the government’s proposed crackdown on capital raisings and share buybacks.

www.afr.com

 

[discomatt]

Why not spend millions on a stadium, it’s only tax dollars that could be wasted on housing, healthcare and education.
On the upside we will have submarines to defend Tassie if some minority group protests the logging industry or the construction of the stadium

 

[boobook]

Why not spend millions on a stadium, it’s only tax dollars that could be wasted on housing, healthcare and education.
On the upside we will have submarines to defend Tassie if some minority group protests the logging industry or the construction of the stadium

It wouldn't be the first time a federal Labor Government had declared war on Tasmania.

 

[John U]

Good quote.

 

[boobook]

That sounds right, John. Most people are pretty hopeless at playing chess. And a lot of young people vote for Greens because they love the thought of it.

Here is another voting saying.

"If you don't vote Labor when you turn 18, you don't have a heart. If you're still voting Labor by the time you turn 30, you don't have a brain." That's about right too.

 

[Albynsw]

And further to what @boobook said
Look at the general public bleeting now because of the increased cost of living from fuel, power and interest rates
Can you imagine how that would continue to spiral out of control if the Greens had power ? There would be anarchy

I understand their good intentions for the environment but they are clueless on running an economy. It is little wonder though as most have never had a real job and lived off the public purse
Their current leader included

 

[boobook]

Like the Greens wanting to allow children and pregnant people to have heroin in the injecting room. Note that they are not discriminating. All pregnant people are included, not just pregnant women, LOL.

Victoria Greens to push for greater access to safe injecting rooms with proposed bill change

Exclusive: Proposed amendment would make North Richmond facility permanent and widen eligibility criteria

www.theguardian.com

And before people cry that the article is not accurate. Here it is from their policy page. However, the Greens call it "health care", not injecting Heroin.

Greens push to improve government bill so more safe injecting rooms can be set up where they're needed | Australian Greens Victoria

The Victorian Greens will move to make it easier to establish more medically supervised injecting rooms where they are needed in Victoria, when Parliament returns this week.

greens.org.au

How many chess moves ahead do you need to be able to plan to know that is a completely idiotic policy?

0?

 

[discomatt]

That sounds right, John. Most people are pretty hopeless at playing chess. And a lot of young people vote for Greens because they love the thought of it.

Here is another voting saying.

"If you don't vote Labor when you turn 18, you don't have a heart. If you're still voting Labor by the time you turn 30, you don't have a brain." That's about right too.

But the flip side IMO is anyone who votes one party regardless of policy and who is actually there is also brainless

 

[boobook]

But the flip side IMO is anyone who votes one party regardless of policy and who is actually there is also brainless

That is very true. The best policy is to vote against whoever is in power in your electorate to make it worth fighting over by the various parties.

 

[Albynsw]

I was clueless about politics as a hairy bum boy starting my first job out of school as an apprentice and have never followed them closely since but what I witnessed the Unions doing with bashings/ extortion, the need to be escorted by security guards for personal protection plus sending companies broke has left an impression that will never get me voting for Labour.
Greens are useless and I dont care that much for the Libs either other than their basic policy of providing the framework of freedom to be able to reap the rewards of working harder or smarter if you want it.
I disagree with the expectation of the government being the provider for the people.

So I always seem to vote for the one I hate the least

 

[boobook]

Well, the financial geniuses in Labor are at it again. This time in Victoria. Solving the issue of rental shortages. .

The average rental property owner will have to pay around $2500 extra in Stamp Duty a year. With the existing laws protecting tenants, many land lords have left the market because renting out a property is no longer profitable. Now the ones remaining either have to charge $45 a week extra to cover the new tax or sell out.

How will that help the rental crisis? I guess if you waste money like a drunken sailor, it has to be paid off some time. For example, building 2 Olympic pools with a stadium for the commonwealth games in Geelong, costing $240M, then ripping it out 6 months later when the crowd has gone.

Dan will have to close the borders again. This time to stop businesses and people from getting out. Maybe that's what he learned in his secret china trip lately.

 

[boobook]

More Labor Economic stupidity.

Before the last Federal action, Labor promised a reduction in electricity bills of $275 on average.

What has happened since. Closures of coal power stations. Gas is now Public enemy no 1, and there is not enough power generation.

Prices went up about $300 last year and will go up about $350 this year ( Victoria). Almost double. Next year will be the same. So every household will be about $1200 a year worse off compared to the election promise.

Lucky Dan reinvented the SEC to bring prices down in Victoria too. They're missing in action.

Labor is economically inept. The factions and Unions get priority over sane economic policy.

 

[Albynsw]

Well, the financial geniuses in Labor are at it again. This time in Victoria. Solving the issue of rental shortages. .

The average rental property owner will have to pay around $2500 extra in Stamp Duty a year. With the existing laws protecting tenants, many land lords have left the market because renting out a property is no longer profitable. Now the ones remaining either have to charge $45 a week extra to cover the new tax or sell out.

How will that help the rental crisis? I guess if you waste money like a drunken sailor, it has to be paid off some time. For example, building 2 Olympic pools with a stadium for the commonwealth games in Geelong, costing $240M, then ripping it out 6 months later when the crowd has gone.

Dan will have to close the borders again. This time to stop businesses and people from getting out. Maybe that's what he learned in his secret china trip lately.

Yes I don’t understand the logic and heard the Greens banging on about it the other night too. They seem to forget that people with investment properties do so by choice and wont just sit there and cop increased taxation levies to help rebuild government coffers. If their investment is no longer financially viable they will move the investment elsewhere like they did in the Hawke Keating days.
The whole premise of the tax incentives for investment properties is to lure investors into the market to provide rental accommodation. The tax breaks provided costs the community far less than building and administration of public housing

I find it interesting how some pick and choose what they complain about. How come nobody winges about the government incentives they hand out for solar panels and when it used to be water tanks and natural gas before that? Or how they want financial incentives for EV’s?

How come it is ok to hand out money to those people from the public purse?

 

[discomatt]

Once you except the fact that governments are not in place they make life better for all but in fact there to keep the masses enslaved to the system and under control it all makes sense
Conspiracy or reality ? Make up your own mind after looking at all the facts of life