Proper politicians should have policies they believe in and then convince the electorate that it's the right thing to do instead of basing policy on popularity polling that may win them the election. It's like asking kids if they want lollies or vegetables for dinner. For this reason I respect some of the minor parties that have no hope of winning, at least they're pushing a barrow they believe in. The population actually has to be convinced that the way the system is set up will not work in the long run because the earth can't take it and allow us to survive. The earth will survive and regenerate but we won't be along for the ride. The time frames aren't urgent enough to force the issue, life is still too good, it's hard to pull a pig's snout out of the trough.
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Unless you are in a bushfire, flood, coastal zone, a farmer... ... ... yeah climate change might feel like a long way off.
LongRoad2Go
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I see it as a short term sting, but a medium term boom for the economy. Like the Industrial Revolution damaged some trades, but created hundreds more opportunities and generally better living standards. We’re now at that stage of change-over, hence the push to get kids into STEM disciplines. I’m in the Engineering/Technology fields and see the change as an exciting opportunity for current and future generations.
peterfermtech
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Whilst most will probably treat this with derision from what I can see the only party that has a proper sustainable plain for climate change is the liberal party.
They have a major push for clean hydrogen. A year ago the greens were arguing against it.
They just announced plans for proper recycling initiatives for us here rather than just shipping it off overseas. We have to recycle all those 1 year old i-phones somewhere.
Australia has been the kicking board out of Brussels for the EU but the current situation with Russia just highlights their hypocrisy.
The Greens and Labour believe climate change can be solved by subsidising Solar Panels, Electric Cars and Batteries.
They have a major push for clean hydrogen. A year ago the greens were arguing against it.
They just announced plans for proper recycling initiatives for us here rather than just shipping it off overseas. We have to recycle all those 1 year old i-phones somewhere.
Australia has been the kicking board out of Brussels for the EU but the current situation with Russia just highlights their hypocrisy.
The Greens and Labour believe climate change can be solved by subsidising Solar Panels, Electric Cars and Batteries.
cam04
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Or your wife is a director of earth sciences and has been mapping it for 15+ years. Anyone who thinks climate change isn’t real needs to excuse themselves from society. Look at any glacier over time.
Mick_Marsh
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I wonder how much inflation is caused by local issues within Australia and how much is caused by International issues.
For example, outside Australia, grain is expensive but the farmers don't seem to be getting paid more for their grain.
Farmers call for ACCC inquiry to address growing grain price gap
Australia's peak farm lobby group for grain growers is calling for an inquiry into grain prices to explain why farmers are getting up to $400 per tonne less for their product than producers overseas.
www.abc.net.au
I wonder how much inflation is caused by local issues within Australia and how much is caused by International issues.
For example, outside Australia, grain is expensive but the farmers don't seem to be getting paid more for their grain.
Farmers call for ACCC inquiry to address growing grain price gap
Australia's peak farm lobby group for grain growers is calling for an inquiry into grain prices to explain why farmers are getting up to $400 per tonne less for their product than producers overseas.
One big local inflationary measure is the Australian Exchange rate. The AUD has dropped from about 79c to about 69c over the last year. That means everything we import is 12% more expensive even though they may not have gone up in Chinese Yuan or USD. Petrol, everything made in China, timber, materials cars etc.
Mick_Marsh
Active Member
Have a read of the article.
LongRoad2Go
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Well, with Ukraine and Russia out of the grain market, Aussie grain growers are in boom times.I wonder how much inflation is caused by local issues within Australia and how much is caused by International issues.
For example, outside Australia, grain is expensive but the farmers don't seem to be getting paid more for their grain.
Farmers call for ACCC inquiry to address growing grain price gap
Australia's peak farm lobby group for grain growers is calling for an inquiry into grain prices to explain why farmers are getting up to $400 per tonne less for their product than producers overseas.
In regards to payments to farmers - been around for a century and more, it's called the stinking Agents. The Agents get the profits.
peterfermtech
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And in countries like Russia it is the oligarchs. Maybe some of them think that we are ripe for the picking. Just need to get some friends in high places.
www.abc.net.au
Intelligence officials identify Russian efforts to interfere in Australian politics
Russia has been identified as one of the main countries attempting to interfere in Australia’s democracy, with intelligence agencies monitoring continuing efforts by Moscow to influence politics here.
www.abc.net.au
The actual reality of economics is global and has very little to do with what either of our piddley little political parties do. Is inflation at a 40 year high in the US because of our election? A butterfly flaps its wings in the Ukraine and we get a gust of wind in Australia. We're in for a tough ride no matter who wins the election, and one side will blame the other for it. What a stupid game.
Agreed. There are policy settings however that can help smooth the ride but we only end up paying for it later. We are still paying for the GFC and our grandchildren will be paying for our response to covid.
peterfermtech
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How hydrogen can help industry escape future natural-gas crises
A global shortage of natural gas is driving up prices to the point where it is threatening vital industries. Can being hydrogen-ready help heavy industry overcome this?
spectra.mhi.com
peterfermtech
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However the coalition commissioned a report in 2018 which was released in 2019 and have done something about it because they have actually listened to the chief scientist just as they listened to chief medical officer and ATAGI regarding covid and the vaccines.
Apparently Labor would have ignored that advice because they are blaming the government for getting the rollout wrong.
Apparently Labor would have ignored that advice because they are blaming the government for getting the rollout wrong.
peterfermtech
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While the Greens and Labor have been banging on about subsidies for rooftop solar panels.
"The Australian Government supports clean energy technology, including hydrogen, from research and
development through to commercialisation through the Australian Research Council, the CSIRO, the
Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA), the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the
Northern Australia Infrastructure Fund. Through these investments, we are building the pipeline of
technologies needed to meet our Paris target and achieve emissions reductions beyond 2030.
Since 2015, the Australian Government has committed over $146 million to hydrogen projects along the
supply chain."
"The Australian Government supports clean energy technology, including hydrogen, from research and
development through to commercialisation through the Australian Research Council, the CSIRO, the
Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA), the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the
Northern Australia Infrastructure Fund. Through these investments, we are building the pipeline of
technologies needed to meet our Paris target and achieve emissions reductions beyond 2030.
Since 2015, the Australian Government has committed over $146 million to hydrogen projects along the
supply chain."
Hoyks
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Latest documents to turn up indicate that Scomo authorised payment to the NT government of a $20 mil incentive to encourage them to lease the port of Darwin to Chinese interests.
www.abc.net.au
Taxpayers paid nearly $20 million leasing Darwin Port to Chinese company under Morrison's watch, Labor says
Documents released by Labor show Scott Morrison signed off on a federal agreement to pay almost $20 million to the NT government as part of an incentive program for privatising the Darwin Port.
www.abc.net.au