What is the perfect touring tent without roof transporting?


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...... Maybe once you've had a good sip of your 1st beer though. :)
Id wait till at least the second or even the 3rd myself to get a little more entertainment :cool:

As for multiples I am already there, 2 swags-single & double dome, awning tent & one of those Coleman poly 4 man deluxe things.

The Coleman is good in warmer climates but find the canvas awning tent to be great in cold & wet weather as you can tell by my avitar.

In saying that I had the Coleman on one trip away with a couple of mates that just had swags & not even a tarp set up & it absolutely bucketed down for 2 days, the other guys loved sitting in the annex part of the tent & the inside of the tent was dry as so cant complain about that.

The down side to the awning tent is its a bit tricky to get off the car & set up the secondary poles & guy ropes & its to small for 2 people for that long plus another bad design element is that its flat on top so collects snow & rain.


I think you'll find it hard to beat a centrepole tent like you already have. Most of the tents I would normally suggest to people have been ruled out for one reason or another (all fair enough if they're not what you're after).

Have you considered a classic American-style bow tent? They take longer to set up than an oztent, but they're certainly easier than a dome tent. They're almost like a wider version of a centrepole if it was using a sidepole kit.

Kodiak have a good rep (I used one in the US a long time ago and was pretty impressed by it). I think Anaconda do a copy nowadays under their home brand Dune, though who knows what the quality is like.


Another option (I have no experience with them) is an EPE Speedy Earth - they're heavy though (30 KG) but probably give you more usable space than the Southern Cross. I have one of their instant-up tents which is great, but that's it.

Good luck on the search.


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The Safari style tent is terrific but they are still reasonably bulky and at over 20kg not light
I would be looking at some of the 2 bow nylon tents that pack right down to sleeping bag size and only weigh a couple of kilos
The Mallamoos are great too but probably won’t go in the 200


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I have an Oztrail Tourer 9 and still use it now and again, even with the camper. Just for the two of us.
Because of the longer back you can fit a double mattress and still use the quicker single pole, not the side poles.
Great heavy duty weatherproof tent, fast to deploy and pack but like all these, a little bulky.


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I think the Oztrail is as good as it gets for a small quick tent. I'll keep thinking till I am forced to do something. Thanks so far all.

Les PK Ranger

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I think the Oztrail is as good as it gets for a small quick tent. I'll keep thinking till I am forced to do something. Thanks so far all.
Yeah they have the regular tourer and the extended back type that gives a bit extra room (and at decent height).
I reckon the side pole kit would be worthwhile in either model, gives basically all the floor clear use.


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I have a Southern Cross Bushmaster (heavyweight floor and canvas - 10'x10" - about 20kgs) which is bloody awkward to get up on the roof rack and when I had a wagon I found it to be an absolute pain if put in the back. These things pack up into a flatish "square" and therefore difficult for one bloke to handle.

Ian Dix of Southern Cross helped me out though. He suggested dismantling the square roof frame and then rolling up the tent as I would a swag. A couple of minutes to do but what a difference. Virtually the same size as a swag, in fact I put it into a swag bag. and, lifting it up onto the roof rack of the Cruiser is easy.

The extra time removing and replacing the square frame is worth it. This only takes a couple of minutes and is probably faster than erecting a dome tent and fly (especially in the wind).

Ian Dix's recommendation really did save me because as I got older (read "weaker") I thought the tent more or less had to go but not now.

Best of luck with your search. Glad to see you are not rushing in and buying on impulse. A tent can make or break a great trip.


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Thanks Poppa.

I did consider that. The problem is that my Southern cross is such a good tent. But too big for me now.
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This ultimate touring tent sadly don't exist, & I don't know why??? Is a 4P tough synthetic 2min setup tent asking too much?
Soo many gimmicks & over complicated crap out there coz they don't make tents for real men.
Canvas is such a pig to deal with & a good RTT just robs a huge storage area. My wagon overland setup is now using a cheap
Oztrail older festival 4P dome that stores in my rear wheel canvas bag so you don't have to spend 5mins trying to fit it inside a joke of
a small bag. Just fold the whole thing in quicly & shove it in the canvas bag, if it's muddy & wet no probs at all.
Setup time for this tent is about 1min 20secs with the fly on (assuming the ground is cleaned), just 4 pegs and thats it.
Add another minute to peg the fly out taught for rain. The fiberglass poles broke on 2nd use...but chinese ebay alloy ones seem to work ok.
Just have to be real carful as this tent is weak...The cheap thin floor is the most vulnerable part.

Sadly other dome tents look to take alot longer than this cheapo one, strange as this cost me under 100bucks.

For shelter I use a 270 wing awning or if the wether gets wild (which I love) I setup my 3M sq poly tarp which takes 5mins by myself
& can hold up to most strong winds, all poles & pegs, tarp stores in a long thin tent pole canvas bag.
Also pays to have a LED hand wave activated headlamp so you can do it all in the dark if needed.

I also (& cannot believe) carry a Safari Bow 3M just in case I need more secure setup, which stores in a large custom canvas bag.
POS thing allrond with many problems, but for open dry long base camping it's trumps all other touring tents. It sits on rear 2nd row seats.

I don't see any better setup & as far as I'm concerned the only real alternative to this is a RTT, ground tents are too much work with setting up bedding (slow self inflat matts) & cleaning the ground etc.


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I have looked for something that is compact when packed, light, quick, water proof and I can stand up or nearly stand up.

This is the closest I have ever seen, its like a pop up tent but different. Trouble is that you can't get it in Australia.

The T3 is 3 person and T4 4 person, slightly larger when packed.



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I have been using the Coleman Instant Up 4P for the last 2 years. Setting up the basic tent is a matter of minutes; peg the 4 corners and then extend each of the 4 legs. I only put up the fly if there's a chance of rain or morning dew, otherwise I wouldn't bother. I like the tent because with 2 people there's stacks of room inside and I can stand up straight.
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+1 for the Coleman Instant Up. I haven't used mine for a few years do to being in a swag but think I'm going to go back to it for the next trip with the mrs. Sets up in minutes and very spacious.


I like my setup better tbh, its not long so it folds up very quickly into the rear wheel bag, also the mesh body of the tent just clips on the poles at 4 simple points, unlike some that you have to feed the poles through taking alot of time. Plus being a dome shape it actually holds up to strong winds quite well.
The Gazelle looks promising. The instant up is something to consider if I was desperate for a replacement.