What Cheeses Me Off!!!!

stevemc181

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WCMO is recently I had a couple of long range fuel tanks fitted to the Patrol, the main tank is a 145litre Outback accessories tank, no drama's there apart from a dodgy fuel gauge install which we are sorting out.
I filled the tank from near empty after a recent Dirk Hartog Island trip. I fuelled up at the Overlander roadhouse using one of the pumps (Pump 1) where you need to put in your credit card and pre-authorise an amount. All up I filled it with apparently 158.86 litres, with all of this apart from about 1 litre going into the main tank, I hadn't used the full subtank at all, but squeezed about 1 litre in there to use up my pre-authorised amount of $200.

Interesting I thought, how could I get around 157 litres into a supposed 145 litre main tank? I thought my new tank maybe bigger than I realised, so reserved judgement until today. I ran the tank right down until the fuel light came on while driving home yesterday. This morning i removed the drain bung and emptied it, measuring the fuel, I put 4 litres back into it and went to my usual servo 2 km's down the road. The most I could squeeze in was 142.59 litres, this means that the tank takes about 146 litres maximum! So it is pretty close to what it should be.

So it looks to me like I've paid the Overlander roadhouse in WA for about 12 or 13 litrs of fuel I couldn't possibly have fitted in my tank! Seems like Pump Number 1 is over reading the volume it pumps, I'd hate to think how many truckies have filled up 1500+ litres from here and paid for a shitload of fuel they haven't used! I've sent an email off to the Gov measurement department, so we'll see if anything comes of it. A couple of litres I could understand, but this is near an 8% difference between what I've paid for and what I've actually received!
 

callmejoe

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Don't forget about air bubbles/traps in yr tank. Park on the wrong lean and once your tanks get near full air can get trapped. Happens all the time with my camper and b4 that my caravan. Fill it to full, water coming out the inlet and the breathers. leave for 20mins come back and easily put in another 10L.

Most fuel pumps are check regularly under guidelines. Not to saying they cannot be wrong but if they are it wouldn't be often.
 

stevemc181

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Don't forget about air bubbles/traps in yr tank. Park on the wrong lean and once your tanks get near full air can get trapped. Happens all the time with my camper and b4 that my caravan. Fill it to full, water coming out the inlet and the breathers. leave for 20mins come back and easily put in another 10L.

Most fuel pumps are check regularly under guidelines. Not to saying they cannot be wrong but if they are it wouldn't be often.

There were no air bubbles in my tank, I fill up at the same servo, from the same pump on the same angle nearly every time when home. The fuel tank is sold as a 145 litre tank, if it took 157 litres, I think they’d sell it as a 155 litre tank. My fuel economy would have been over 22lph based on filling it with 157 litres which I thought was high for the trip I’d just done.
I didn’t think it added up at the time and now I have verified it. I’ll wait and see if I hear anything from the measurement authority, I doubt it though.
 

Rusty Panels

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I still get angry whenever I see those stupid ads for gambling. The latest one shows these blokie blokes who have just made it to the high point on some range and appear to be about to take a group selfie, instead they are watching a horse race on a phone. It's an ad for an app or some crap.
These ads are clearly targeting those people who are easily lead. What sort of impression does this sort of rubbish have on kids.
It is disgusting that these companies are permitted to advertise their products on free to air television. They should be banned from public media and only allowed to promote their crap on their own turf like the pay TV sports channels and horse race tracks.
The same as these other stupid ads for Sportsbet and Ladbrokes which are meant to be funny and depict average looking people competing in made up events like sock sliding and towel flicking. Again aimed at vulnerable people who may well end up with addictions and who knows what as a long term result. There are enough problems in society with drugs, unemployment, poverty etc, etc, etc. Do we need these dirtbags creating more?
 

dno67

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I still get angry whenever I see those stupid ads for gambling. The latest one shows these blokie blokes who have just made it to the high point on some range and appear to be about to take a group selfie, instead they are watching a horse race on a phone. It's an ad for an app or some crap.
These ads are clearly targeting those people who are easily lead. What sort of impression does this sort of rubbish have on kids.
It is disgusting that these companies are permitted to advertise their products on free to air television. They should be banned from public media and only allowed to promote their crap on their own turf like the pay TV sports channels and horse race tracks.
The same as these other stupid ads for Sportsbet and Ladbrokes which are meant to be funny and depict average looking people competing in made up events like sock sliding and towel flicking. Again aimed at vulnerable people who may well end up with addictions and who knows what as a long term result. There are enough problems in society with drugs, unemployment, poverty etc, etc, etc. Do we need these dirtbags creating more?
Gambling is the new tabaco.
Another govco cash cow.
Im sure there's going to be a revenue steam raised via this covid19, just waiting.
 

Colly18

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This sort of thing is breaking the world in my opinion.

Yep, it's now a case of no individual resposibility for ones actions, but instead blame someone else and expect compensation. So sad!! Don't whinge next time your Council rates go up, as they have substantial insurance premiums to pay (thanks to us/society) :)
 

Albynsw

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Coincidentally I was there this afternoon.
I don’t agree with these sort of claims, it is a slippery slope to us living in an even more regulated cotton wool world.

We had a cyclist fall off his bike and broke his collar bone on a section of uneven road out the front of my place. I have since seen him return with his legal fraternity as is suing the council for it :rolleyes:
 

dno67

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I personally recon a lot of councils (government departments) spend far to much money on making infursture pretty rather than functional, eroding budgets of money that could better spent on maintenance.
I don't agree with these pay outs ether, at the end of the day everyone has some responsibility for there own saftey.
 
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cookie64

4x4 Earth Contributer
Broke my ankle at my sons footy practice some years ago, kicking the ball back to them on a slope and went over - silly me :)
Went and had surgery the full bit plates & screws, all at my expense (Private Health Insurance) and being a contractor lost 6 weeks pay (2 days short of my IP Insurance kicking in). Went back to the club after I had recovered and the manager told me to lodge a claim against the club, I didn't 'cause it's not the Australian way and morally I think it is wrong.

We have become too Americanised with their propensity to sue anyone over anything and then we wonder why our insurances are so high.

Cheers
 

John U

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I still get angry whenever I see those stupid ads for gambling. The latest one shows these blokie blokes who have just made it to the high point on some range and appear to be about to take a group selfie, instead they are watching a horse race on a phone. It's an ad for an app or some crap.
These ads are clearly targeting those people who are easily lead. What sort of impression does this sort of rubbish have on kids.
It is disgusting that these companies are permitted to advertise their products on free to air television. They should be banned from public media and only allowed to promote their crap on their own turf like the pay TV sports channels and horse race tracks.
The same as these other stupid ads for Sportsbet and Ladbrokes which are meant to be funny and depict average looking people competing in made up events like sock sliding and towel flicking. Again aimed at vulnerable people who may well end up with addictions and who knows what as a long term result. There are enough problems in society with drugs, unemployment, poverty etc, etc, etc. Do we need these dirtbags creating more?
I'm guessing that gambling advertising is keeping a lot of the TV stations afloat.

Couple of years ago you couldn't visit a pub in my area without being bombarded by poker machines and lights as soon as you walked in the door. It was 100% saturation. A couple of local breweries opened up bars which was awesome. Locally brewed beer and no poker machines.
 

Rusty Panels

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Don't worry too much about the TV stations going broke! They still advertise the hell out of all the other crap they always have! There was a limit imposed of 4-5 ads in breaks years ago, I don't think any of them took an ounce of notice and just flog you to death with ads. The same as there was a study of the volume of advertising done some time back because the public opinion was that whenever an ad came on they had to lower the volume of their televisions. The study showed that we were all imagining it. What a load of crap. I am getting hard of hearing so have the volume up a bit but, when the ads come on it's too much even for me to put up with.

The gambling garbage is beyond belief. I'd like to see an honest study done of the effects of gambling on our society. I'd reckon it would be up there with drugs and alcohol as causes of family violence and relationship breakdowns not to mention suicides.
 

discomatt

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The gambling garbage is beyond belief. I'd like to see an honest study done of the effects of gambling on our society. I'd reckon it would be up there with drugs and alcohol as causes of family violence and relationship breakdowns not to mention suicides.
From my observations in life gambling has 10 times the toll on society than drugs and alcohol, its just that there is more $$ and more socially acceptable than drugs and alcohol so the government encourages it.
 

Rusty Panels

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From my observations in life gambling has 10 times the toll on society than drugs and alcohol, its just that there is more $$ and more socially acceptable than drugs and alcohol so the government encourages it.
Because the Governments rake in the big bucks from it. I'm surprised they haven't legalised illicit drugs so they can be packaged, labeled as being a health hazard and then tax the crap out of them to make money.
That's possibly on the drawing board for economic recovery after covid!
 

John U

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Because the Governments rake in the big bucks from it. I'm surprised they haven't legalised illicit drugs so they can be packaged, labeled as being a health hazard and then tax the crap out of them to make money.
That's possibly on the drawing board for economic recovery after covid!
This is a good idea.

The war on drugs has been a costly and utter failure. It wastes police time, blocks up the courts, and ruins lives of otherwise law abiding citizens. Many, many, senior retired judges, police, and doctors agree. Decriminalise, tax, and control. Treat use as a medical condition. We can look to Portugal to see what the results are like. They did it a few years ago.
 
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