What Cheeses Me Off!!!!

smitty_r51

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Yeah, but they hit like girls. :)
having seen the results of a bloke whose wife beat the %+#% out of him on a regular basis from everything up to and including a hammer it is no joking matter.

The media have turned it into a men as the perpetrator (which admittedly the majority is ) but no domestic violence should be target not just that against women victims
 

mikehzz

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We've got a long way to go before most guys would own up to being the victim of domestic violence. True or not, you're handing in your man card by going public. There's some sexual stereotyping in a nutshell, how ingrained is that?
 

dno67

Well-Known Member
Could you begin to imagine if the three perpetrators in this
shocking story were boys ?
Warning ! the video in this article is not nice.
January 17 2018
Disabled teen lured into park and allegedly bashed by three girls

A teenage girl with a disability was allegedly tortured for hours by three girls in a park in regional Victoria, in a horrific attack described by senior police as the worst assault they've seen in 30 years.

During the two and half hour attack, the 17-year-old was forced to inhale glass believed to be from her smashed iPhone, had her hands burnt on a hot barbecue before her head was repeatedly slammed into a wooden table at the park in the Gippsland town of Moe.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/d...-being-lured-into-a-park-20180117-p4yyl0.html
 

Jason Watt

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having seen the results of a bloke whose wife beat the %+#% out of him on a regular basis from everything up to and including a hammer it is no joking matter.

The media have turned it into a men as the perpetrator (which admittedly the majority is ) but no domestic violence should be target not just that against women victims
I disagree with your "which admittedly the majority is" statement Smitty.
Most cases of domestic violence against men either don't get reported through embarrassment or are ignored at the local Police Station.
Police (I note it's usually female Officers) often don't bother to put pen to paper because it's "all too hard".
I have a Brother who has been stabbed on two separate occasions, spat on, poisoned, verbally abused daily, humiliated in front of his children, evicted from his own home with a faked IVO - the list is huge.
He was the one carted away in the back of a Divvy van each time "to diffuse the situation".
I've personally had this happen to myself.
No one gives a fat rats.
There are no "Mens refuges" nor any useful services available for men.
Note: We both have never been violent towards our ex-partners in any way, and yet have become double victims.

Imagine being thrown out of your home with only the clothes on your back, your children dispossessed and alienated, assets seized, bank accounts frozen, superannuation raped, stuck with the bills and the mortgage etc. - without actually "doing anything wrong" to deserve it?
One in three marriages fail - just as the feminazis intended.
It's an unpublished fact that one in five ex-Dads commits suicide. Attend a D.I.D.D.S meeting one night.
Is this the "system" some in here wish to champion? REALLY?
My Brother and I certainly didn't experience equality, fairness, empathy, sympathy or anything vaguely warm and fuzzy and I'm pretty damned sure most of our basic human rights have been violated.
"Sugar and spice and everything nice" my butt hole!
I for one will NEVER wear a "white ribbon".

Why am I crapping on about it?
Because it all began with girls in short skirts who knew we had MONEY!
 
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GaryM

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^^ Or, thats what happens when you allow boys to blame girls for their inability to keep themselves in control. You were blinded by the furry checquebook (your words, short skirts), and think thats not your fault? Its yours alone. You did not leave a perfect home one day and return to a nightmare. Its gradual, over time. Like being stabbed, twice. Meet her friends, family, look for signs, marry for the right reasons, not how good they look in a skirt. Leave, when its off, not when its toxic.

If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. Thats what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name. And while for many they are no longer, except those women that cant stand on their own two feet, it would be impossible, or political suicide to now remove the refuges now. And thats a sign of what the majority of the country thinks.

Oh, and these teenage girls at a school, have nothing to do with you or your brothers wife. No, no sign of misogyny there.

Men win in court, the reason they dont is they lack control, and the ability to be proportional with the blame. Police have to do something at that moment they are called, they cant tell who is right or wrong, so err on the side of stats. That is, kids tend to want to stay with mum, and one of you has to leave. Kids stay in the home. Perfect, of course not. But you want a miracle, from a system FFS, when you cant even pick your wife? Thats a sign by the way, that you hold everyone to a high standard, except yourself. You see the pattern yet? These, your attitude, betrays a lot about you, to the cops on the night/day, to the courts. And well, its all they have to go on really since they lost their crystal balls.

Not one word in there about your short comings, you must be Prince Charming. But I found one, they dont garnish assets without a reason.

No, no picture there.
 
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dno67

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I think he stated his short coming (not seeing past the skirt) dose
that mean he has less right to be treated equally to female in the
same position ?
 

Jason Watt

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Footnote: I'm one of the Dads who survived.
It was Hell on - dare I say it - "Earth".
Far worse than experiencing the death of a child - trust me on this!
I was lucky enough to have a (then) 13 yo Son who stood by me.
We both have 4x4s and trek the VHC, ride moties, surf etc.
I'm taking him to Fiji surfing for his 21st.

There are some things not even 'they" can take away - but only if you choose.
1. Your dignity
2. Your sense of humour
3. Your honour
4. Your GOOD friends
5. Your 4x4 (if you can hide it at a mate's place).
BTW: There are legal "ways" of circumventing "the system".
Hint: The ATO is your friend!
Lifeline/Beyond Blue/Mens Line - don't bother.
 

Jason Watt

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I think he stated his short coming (not seeing past the skirt) dose
that mean he has less right to be treated equally to female in the
same position ?
It means men are legally exploited - if we choose to follow our natural hormones.
Women are very aware of this hence the ol' "short skirt" routine.
Their Mammas teach them this at around age 13.
It's the oldest profession on the planet after all.
They're not fooling this WHAM again.
It's now WHAM, BAM - Thank ME M'aam.
Can I have a tax deductable receipt please? :D
 

BlueCollie

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^^ Or, thats what happens when you allow boys to blame girls for their inability to keep themselves in control. You were blinded by the furry checquebook (your words, short skirts), and think thats not your fault? Its yours alone. You did not leave a perfect home one day and return to a nightmare. Its gradual, over time. Like being stabbed, twice. Meet her friends, family, look for signs, marry for the right reasons, not how good they look in a skirt. Leave, when its off, not when its toxic.

If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. Thats what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name. And while for many they are no longer, except those women that cant stand on their own two feet, it would be impossible, or political suicide to now remove the refuges now. And thats a sign of what the majority of the country thinks.

Oh, and these teenage girls at a school, have nothing to do with you or your brothers wife. No, no sign of misogyny there.

Men win in court, the reason they dont is they lack control, and the ability to be proportional with the blame. Police have to do something at that moment they are called, they cant tell who is right or wrong, so err on the side of stats. That is, kids tend to want to stay with mum, and one of you has to leave. Kids stay in the home. Perfect, of course not. But you want a miracle, from a system FFS, when you cant even pick your wife? Thats a sign by the way, that you hold everyone to a high standard, except yourself. You see the pattern yet? These, your attitude, betrays a lot about you, to the cops on the night/day, to the courts. And well, its all they have to go on really since they lost their crystal balls.

Not one word in there about your short comings, you must be Prince Charming. But I found one, they dont garnish assets without a reason.

No, no picture there.
Sounds like you are victim blaming, something else which has become unacceptable when the victim is a woman but totally cool when the victim is a man. More of the machismo culture that men have to live up to. Reminds me of reading a piece of trivia about Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers - apparently he lost his virginity (their words) to his dads girlfriend when he was 11!! He was a victim of rape but you know high fives to that guy for rooting an adult woman, he was clearly in control of that situation because he has boy bits. Imagine the outcry if it was a fun fact about a female entertainer.
 

Albynsw

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^^ Or, thats what happens when you allow boys to blame girls for their inability to keep themselves in control. You were blinded by the furry checquebook (your words, short skirts), and think thats not your fault? Its yours alone. You did not leave a perfect home one day and return to a nightmare. Its gradual, over time. Like being stabbed, twice. Meet her friends, family, look for signs, marry for the right reasons, not how good they look in a skirt. Leave, when its off, not when its toxic.

If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. Thats what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name. And while for many they are no longer, except those women that cant stand on their own two feet, it would be impossible, or political suicide to now remove the refuges now. And thats a sign of what the majority of the country thinks.

Oh, and these teenage girls at a school, have nothing to do with you or your brothers wife. No, no sign of misogyny there.

Men win in court, the reason they dont is they lack control, and the ability to be proportional with the blame. Police have to do something at that moment they are called, they cant tell who is right or wrong, so err on the side of stats. That is, kids tend to want to stay with mum, and one of you has to leave. Kids stay in the home. Perfect, of course not. But you want a miracle, from a system FFS, when you cant even pick your wife? Thats a sign by the way, that you hold everyone to a high standard, except yourself. You see the pattern yet? These, your attitude, betrays a lot about you, to the cops on the night/day, to the courts. And well, its all they have to go on really since they lost their crystal balls.

Not one word in there about your short comings, you must be Prince Charming. But I found one, they dont garnish assets without a reason.

No, no picture there.

GaryM I don't know the details of his situation and assume you don't either and of course there is always two sides to a story but......if you were to rewrite what you have posted here with the genders reversed how do you think that would be received by the public?
 

Jason Watt

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^^ Or, thats what happens when you allow boys to blame girls for their inability to keep themselves in control. You were blinded by the furry checquebook (your words, short skirts), and think thats not your fault? Its yours alone. You did not leave a perfect home one day and return to a nightmare. Its gradual, over time. Like being stabbed, twice. Meet her friends, family, look for signs, marry for the right reasons, not how good they look in a skirt. Leave, when its off, not when its toxic.

If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. Thats what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name. And while for many they are no longer, except those women that cant stand on their own two feet, it would be impossible, or political suicide to now remove the refuges now. And thats a sign of what the majority of the country thinks.

Oh, and these teenage girls at a school, have nothing to do with you or your brothers wife. No, no sign of misogyny there.

Men win in court, the reason they dont is they lack control, and the ability to be proportional with the blame. Police have to do something at that moment they are called, they cant tell who is right or wrong, so err on the side of stats. That is, kids tend to want to stay with mum, and one of you has to leave. Kids stay in the home. Perfect, of course not. But you want a miracle, from a system FFS, when you cant even pick your wife? Thats a sign by the way, that you hold everyone to a high standard, except yourself. You see the pattern yet? These, your attitude, betrays a lot about you, to the cops on the night/day, to the courts. And well, its all they have to go on really since they lost their crystal balls.

Not one word in there about your short comings, you must be Prince Charming. But I found one, they dont garnish assets without a reason.

No, no picture there.
Right on cue Gary.
Got me figured out in three posts - legend!
I almost hope you get to experience what I've been through buddy.
I'll bet you will change your tune.
So you're saying it was my fault I married a gold digger for her personal fun and profit and that women don't "stitch" men up?
Get off the drugs mate.
The feminazis have taken away all "control" - as you put it - from men.
How can you possibly consider this to be "fair" to half the World's population?
"Leave when it's off " you say? Yep, just pack up and lose everything to her.
"If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. That's what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name."
Ummm - back in the 50s maybe. Hello! 2018 wake up call. Doesn't wash mate.
There ARE NO MEN'S REFUGES!
Family Law Act was bastardised under Labor by Lionel Murphy and Alastair Nicholson in '78.
That's 40 years of this lefticle sexist anti-male crap.
Playing the old "mysogeny" card huh? Thought that died out with Julia G.
"Racist card" next maybe?
Are you playing with a full deck?
I am beyond your outdated meaningless socialist labels.
You seem to have some ill-conceived perception that women are better than men and can do no wrong.
You Sir, are a victim of feminazi propaganda.
Politics = the manipulation of the population.

You are also filthy guilty of blaming the victim as in my case, no more and no less than "She dressed like a slut, she deserved it" blames a girl in a short skirt for provoking unwanted attention from men.

Maybe stay away from the ABC for a while and go back to Uni and finish that Bachelor of Arts Diploma?
I've seen long-drops fuller than you, but not often.
 
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99pc chimpanzee

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I know other websites that have pages and pages of girls in uniform also. They are also filled with old blokes that think they should have control of a young girls clothing.
Yes indeed,if parents first,then principals second,then teachers and other role models 3rdly,told these girls that its not only boys of their own age whose attention they attract,its also men of all ages and like me grey haired ones.
For the sake of honesty I will put my hand up as having been aroused by teenage girls in short skirts,g banger bikinis etc,etc,etc,As I get older girls don't suddenly get uglier.
Maybe they are aware of this fact too and don't give a rats,(any attention will suffice the ego)and while they hang their goodies out,i will look........And if anyone tells me any different I know you don't masturbate either:rolleyes:
It really irks me that parents nowadays seem to hand over to schools/teachers the role of parenting and when their child gets guidance in what is acceptable to the school,the parents crack a wobbly.
Parents start Parenting if you don't like what the school is doing,and cover up your daughters if you don't wont every tom,dick and harry checking her out.Cause we will,its human male nature.
 

99pc chimpanzee

Well-Known Member
dno67@you know what I reckon it was when Buddha realised he had obtained enlightenment under the boab tree?
He took a deep breath and realised that indeed his shit did stink!:D:D:D:D
 

GaryM

Well-Known Member
GaryM I don't know the details of his situation and assume you don't either and of course there is always two sides to a story but......if you were to rewrite what you have posted here with the genders reversed how do you think that would be received by the public?
First, I never said his wife (ex) is a nice person. No comment on it. Simply that based on his words, and admissions he didnt realise he made, the situation is his own making. Its certainly not reason to put responsibilities in schoolgirls with short skirts.

But on that. A woman, lets say elderly and rich. Marries a 30 year old male who later leaves and wants his settlement. Hes a deadset lowlife scumbag, just as the posters wife MIGHT be, that has not broken any laws and no law needs to exist to protect you from yourself. If the lady now says I was taken in, tough IMO. It happens all the time. Its just less common because it takes more to sucker a woman in. Not because they are smarter, they tend to think less with their furry checquebook. Use it sure, some are just stubs now, but thats not the same.

I dont think a man, or woman who is taken in, deserves a do over. Most cant let it go because they are now trying to overcome the sense of embarrassment now the spell is broken, and they feel stupid, vitimised even. But they are 99% victims of their own making.

Right on cue Gary.

Got me figured out in three posts - legend!

I almost hope you get to experience what I've been through buddy.

I'll bet you will change your tune.

So you're saying it was my fault I married a gold digger for her personal fun and profit and that women don't "stitch" men up?

Get off the drugs mate.

The feminazis have taken away all "control" - as you put it - from men.

How can you possibly consider this to be "fair" to half the World's population?

"Leave when it's off " you say? Yep, just pack up and lose everything to her.

"If you want a refuge, fine, admit you cant stand on your own feet. That's what a refuge does, even if not said. But it is the stated reason for refuges, women traditionally (a tad outdated now) could not leave as they had no income, or income support and rarely had enough savings to set themselves up. Moreover, women often couldnt get rentals or utilities in their name."

Ummm - back in the 50s maybe. Hello! 2018 wake up call. Doesn't wash mate.

Family Law Act was bastardised under Labor by Lionel Murphy and Alastair Nicholson in '78.

That's 40 years of this lefticle sexist anti-male crap.

Playing the old "mysogeny" card huh? Thought that died out with Julia G.

"Racist card" next maybe?

Are you playing with a full deck?

You seem to have some ill-conceived perception that women are better than men and can do no wrong.

You Sir, are a victim of feminazi propaganda.

Politics = the manipulation of the population.


You are also filthy guilty of blaming the victim as in my case, no more and no less than "She dressed like a slut, she deserved it" blames a girl in a short skirt for provoking unwanted attention from men.


Maybe stay away from the ABC for a while and go back to Uni and finish that Bachelor of Arts Diploma?

I've seen long-drops fuller than you, but not often.
Politics equals the system that gives us currency, roads, cars, business, goods, income. But whatever mate.

I have a proper interpretation of your words. You have a preconceived notion that young schoolgirls need to accept responsibility for your choice in wife. Reread your first post, then put it in context of the topics, Ill wait.

I don’t care if your wife saw you coming, wrote to her sister how she found a live one and would take him for all hes worth. She could connive and conjure over a cauldren, it changes nothing about your inability to make good choices.

Am I playing with a full deck? Lets see. I said leave long before its toxic. Youre response is to argue now that the chance to keep your stuff is well past (you know, where you know better than to marry some eye candy), that you want to keep your stuff despite the law going to roger you if you try? And then complain now you’ve been rodgered. And once again you blame everyone else on the planet. Well yeah I am playing with a full deck, but not the Mother Goose deck youre playing with. Are you ever responsible for yourself? At all, just once?

You married her, she was always going to have legal rights, even in the 50s. Its going to be toxic, get out and let the lawyers sort it out. If you do not make it worse, it can be much simpler than if you act the goat.

But again, like I said, theres a reason they seized your assets. Thats a fact. One of the things you said they did as if without cause. Blaming others again.

You typed all this sunshine. Full deck? LOL. Of course Ive got you sussed, I used your words to do it.

You put this post in response to schoolgirls and their short skirts, as if bitches they are all the same. Misogynist is not a feminazi term, or Julia Gillards, its just English, from ancient Greece. Its a very ancient term and predates the feminazi movement by several millennia. It describes your words, in their context. Its apt.

2018? Yeah I addressed it. You cant now take away the refuges that exist, it would be political suicide. Note it woudnt be political suicide if only feminazis believed it would be wrong. It’s much wider public opinion, democracy in action.
 
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rogerazz

4x4 Earth Contributer
You buy a new caravan cover, take it home and it is just starting to rain. The Missus says I had better read the instructions and I say we don't (notice the term we) have time. Throw it on, push pull, grab a step ladder, swear, find straps and ropes were still in the box? , swear, tie ropes and straps wrong way, tie again,swear, realize cover is to high, undo everything, put roof up (yep a pop top) to get more height,swear, get extendable pruner and cut branches off the top, go get ladder again to reach some branches dropped on roof, swear, then go inside totally spent:eek:. Sit down read instruction book ( why? you just bloody throw it on), then get to the part that says, cover up and tape any sharp bits on van so as not to tear the cover (which I did, tear the cover that is :eek:) swear, then wonder why it became such a real task.
P.S. Caravan cover has two zip open entries on one side, front and side back. The van is a rear entry.:rolleyes:.
Next time I will check the paper ads for a Caravan cover installer....
Cheeses me off :mad:.
 

GaryM

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Sounds like you are victim blaming, something else which has become unacceptable when the victim is a woman but totally cool when the victim is a man. More of the machismo culture that men have to live up to. Reminds me of reading a piece of trivia about Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers - apparently he lost his virginity (their words) to his dads girlfriend when he was 11!! He was a victim of rape but you know high fives to that guy for rooting an adult woman, he was clearly in control of that situation because he has boy bits. Imagine the outcry if it was a fun fact about a female entertainer.
How hard is it. He said they garnished his assets. You know thats not normal process right? You have to act the goat for that to happen.
He stated why she was able to take advantage of him. Short skirt. I wouldn't have pointed out it was his fault, if he didnt post his sad tale in relation to teenage schoolgirls in short skirts.

Maybe its understandable to be angry, feel foolish, but to act out like that is asking for trouble with the law. Its akin to a tantrum. No relationship gets that bad over night so he was putting up with all kinds of crap if she is as bad as he says. Again, whos fault is that?

Nothing machismo about being sensible. Leave when its bad, dont wait till its toxic. And stop trying to turn the clock back. Shes going to get a chunk of assets. Dont like it, make better choices. The time to stop her getting your assets is before you shack up. And accept that the choice to chase fluff because it makes you happy in the pants, is your error. 100% yours alone.

Be responsible for yourself.

Reminds me of reading a piece of trivia about Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers - apparently he lost his virginity (their words) to his dads girlfriend when he was 11!! He was a victim of rape but you know high fives to that guy for rooting an adult woman, he was clearly in control of that situation because he has boy bits. Imagine the outcry if it was a fun fact about a female entertainer.
Unless of course the female entertainer was boasting.
And assuming the Chili Pepper story is true and not just "RocknRoll".

No he wasnt in control, but if he doesnt want to proceed, what can you do? Even if he was, he technically cant be as he is assumed not to have the mental capacity to make an informed choice, statutory rape. But if he now boasts about it thats an adult making the choice, retrospectively. That is, you cant now say his choice was uninformed. But in some places it wouldn't change it, he was underage and she would be charged.

Yes I get it, society treats it differently. Im not sure Kiedis(sp?) cares though. And that is a big part of what MIGHT make it different. They have locked female teachers up for abusing boys, when caught. Its just less common for women to do this. There was one in the US who later married the male and had kids when he was adult, and she was released. Theres been a few.
 

Jason Watt

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Gary, so nice of you to continue stereotyping of me into your nice little whacked view of the world.
No, I didn't "act the goat'. No, I wasn't violent or abusive. No, i didn't "screw around" - although i should have.
Apparently I am not alone.
I was always a decent Dad, husband and provider. How DARE you question this with what little you know!
It's alleged "people" like you that encourage mysogeny through your uninformed assumptions and perpetuation of the aged stereotype that "all men are bad".
YOU perpetuate this myth here and now.
In fact, I delivered both of my children, attended every school sporting event, Scouts, tennis, horse riding etc. I taught my kids how to read and write and 'rythmatic.
I don't have to prove myself to a never-was likes of you.
You're not a Father are you?
You really need to take your blinkers off and wake up to the fact that perfectly good men are being abused by evil abusive women with the full consent of the law in this country and YOU condone it!
There is no shortage of them and the "system" encourages them to be this way by virtue of potential financial enrichment.
It cares naught about the damage done to children along the way.
I really feel sad for you and the cloistered environment and biased views in which you live.
The facts are: Females control the bedroom - always have, always will.
They have the undeniable right to say "Yes" or "No".
But then there's "professionals" whom offer a similar service but for money outright.
Non-professionals hate their guts because it gives the game away.
That is the power of the pussy - short skirts and all.
Don't blame me - I'm a mere WHAM.
Blame my mother - she could have aborted.
So could have yours but you were handy for the Child Support payments for 18 years.
Great, now I have to get my BS filter cleaned. Thanks for that Gary.
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
Your argument has more holes in it than Snow White's hymen.
She too wore a short skirt and traded on being "pretty".
i passed my last urine test. Have you?
Don't try taking the piss out of me again.
Underneath every ancient antiquated bridge lives a Troll.
 
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GaryM

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Wait Im stereotyping, but your linking your sad sad life to a bunch of distant schoolgirls, isn’t stereotyping? Hypocrite much?
 
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