Victoria - COVID 19, What a bloody mess.
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callmejoe
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yep, Protesters
dno67
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Garden variety.
peterfermtech
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CaptainBanana
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I think we can all agree the real tragedy is what they did to Farnhams song.
discomatt
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Come on guys if your going to blame someone for covid warnings maybe blame the cleaner who was at the shops on the dates highlighted and identified by the "experts" not the protestors that were there a week earlier who voice their concerns about the very real issues in society caused by the worlds hardest lock downs and restrictions.
Maybe look at the latest numbers of kids being medicated with crap anti depressant drugs, mental and physical issues in the same picture as the covid issues.
Maybe look at the latest numbers of kids being medicated with crap anti depressant drugs, mental and physical issues in the same picture as the covid issues.
Warby
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Matt, the protestors are the ones you need to take issue with if you want to return to any kind of normality - like 4wders who rip up tracks or smash through gates - the very visible and in your face middle finger to the rules and rule-makers will provide the excuse for ever tighter restrictions. Regardless of whether you agree with their sentiment or not, their approach will NOT help to relax restrictions. It will do the opposite, it will provide Dan and his supporters with ammunition to say "see, I told you not to gather, but you did anyway, and look what happened... so here's what I'm doing about it now."
I am also not sure about the claim that it is "the worlds hardest lock downs and restrictions." As I understand it lots of other places implemented lockdown measures which were just as hard, if not harder.
Swaggie
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It’s only the Anti Lockdown Protesters that get all the negative media and arrested,BLM can be at the same event, no arrests and no coverage from mainstream media..
If truth be told where in this position because of Dans Debacle at the Hotel he knows nothing about.....
So guys we’ll blame a protestor...
The Chadstone Cleaner incident was over 6 weeks ago. Long gone, and nothing to do with this new outbreak and cases. This new outbreak and warning is 1 week after the protests. And if you know Chadstone, you will know the protest was near the shops affected, and the protestors were definitely told by the organisers to carry shopping bags, go into shops and pretend to shop as an excuse for congregating.
Unless you can point to a new cleaner incident of course.
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]It’s only the Anti Lockdown Protesters that get all the negative media and arrested,BLM can be at the same event, no arrests and no coverage from mainstream media..
If truth be told where in this position because of Dans Debacle at the Hotel he knows nothing about.....
So guys we’ll blame a protestor...
Sure, any protest right now is stupid. But how can anti lock up protests be ok and not BLM.
But I have to say that it does take a special kind of stupid to protest about Lockdowns in a way that can only spread the virus and extend lockdowns.
Double dumb points for those people.
Warby
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If truth be told where in this position because of Dans Debacle at the Hotel he knows nothing about.....
So guys we’ll blame a protestor...
Thats just it though.. They WILL blame a protestor, because they can. Regardless of whether it's true or not, it's an easy target and one that the general public will accept as truth.
Now is NOT the time to protest. Now is the time to take note of government action and inaction (at all levels) - to commit to memory all of the injustices, half-truths, outright lies and misdirection. Then, at the next election - every election in which you are entitled to vote - do so. Exercise your democratic right, authority and power to enact meaningful change by voting out those who didn't live up to your expectations.
Be vocal. Be loud. Make yourself heard. Don't give the government a free pass on any of this... But .... DON'T do it in a way though that feeds in to the very rhetoric you are speaking out against. DON'T do it in a way that gives them the ammunition and the excuse they need to further embed and reinforce their own positions.
In short... be smart about it. Yelling at nobody in particular and waving signs around isn't being smart about it.
Swaggie
Moderator
The same reason they didn’t lock them up the first time,
No one has the BALLS to lock up a BLACK OLIVES MATTER PROTESTOR....
Just imagine the constant media backlash if they did and it would be WORLDWIDE...
rogerazz
4x4 Earth Contributer
If you don't agree with lock down and all it's rules , don't believe in covid19 , don't believe it's that bad, or whatever, fine.
Just go out and do what you want.
However don't go out and do what you want to do with anyone else, like a bunch of protesters. Just do it for yourself.
Don't pay the fines, let it go to court and then put up your argument and stand up for what you believe in.
If you really believe in what you do then you don't need anyone else to back you up. Become a Martyr.
Just go out and do what you want.
However don't go out and do what you want to do with anyone else, like a bunch of protesters. Just do it for yourself.
Don't pay the fines, let it go to court and then put up your argument and stand up for what you believe in.
If you really believe in what you do then you don't need anyone else to back you up. Become a Martyr.
The same reason they didn’t lock them up the first time,
No one has the BALLS to lock up a BLACK OLIVES MATTER PROTESTOR....
Just imagine the constant media backlash if they did and it would be WORLDWIDE...
True. I wonder what would happen if there was a BLM protest today. The 34 people over 5 families thing with no fine was the same issue Swaggie.
But of course, those same people were protesting on BLM have forgotten BLM completely and are now busy on unlocking protests.
The only thing that remains constant with these people is protesting, the content changes from 5G, to antivax, to BLM to unlock.
I think there should be a protest against protests during a pandemic.
I can tell you it's the same in HK. Remember the protest and "ohh ahh- how bad is China" from the international media last year. My family in HK have a good friend earned $8000 HK from participating in protests. Most people there were completely against the protests which were largely crime and vandleism. Most people just wanted to get on with life and business.
Remember the media called out the Police for brutality and too much power there. Err the shoe is on this foot now. As usual, the minority think their rights are more important than the other 99% of the population and they have the right to screw it up for everyone. I'll bet many are paid stooges.
THIS is the catalyst for what enables Dan's bid for suppression and controls. That's how stupid these people are.
dirvine
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Well there is an outbreak in Frankston linked to Chaddie. Wheres the 5Km Limit there? Any fines? I bet not because the dictator worries they wont tell the authorities where they went. Its a farce. In any case, the next trigger point is 5 cases. The average just for the past 4 days is 10.75 cases and since Monday the number of cases has been increasing. We will never get to 5 in even 4 weeks time. So what will he do then? Lock down the suburbs that have the disease and let the other out? I dont think so as they are is electoral heartland. I can sense that if there is not a substancial relaxation in 2 weeks time, people will start civil disobedience. Just today while doing my 30km bike ride, I noticed so many people outside walking and not using masks. I saw groups in excess of 5 playing/eating/picnicing in the parks. So I guess some people are just over it now, already.
rogerazz
4x4 Earth Contributer
I have also seen lots of civil disobedience ( not following the rules) everywhere. Maybe that's why it keeps spreading.
Not saying I like the rules, law, whatever. However logic tells me if you work on the premise that people are disobeying and therefore spreading???? well who do you reckon will keep us locked down longer????? Doh!
Not saying I like the rules, law, whatever. However logic tells me if you work on the premise that people are disobeying and therefore spreading???? well who do you reckon will keep us locked down longer????? Doh!
allanmac
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Totally agree about not protesting, but more and more Melbournians are getting more & more frustrated everyday, especially in regard to those who are doing the wrong thing and not being fined for their actions.
The next Victorian election is over 2 years away, and as I said earlier, most Victorians will forget about all the mistakes made as the Govt will no doubt 'dangle some huge sweeteners' to get voted in again.