Ute vs SUV

discomatt

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Just back from a weekend camping with a mate. I have a ranger, he has a 200 Sahara.
Guess which car gets used for going to cut firewood, running the rubbish out, carrying the chainsaw and fuel, blah blah blah. If you are going to be a ponce in an suv, make sure you camp with a mate who has a Ute, or just buy a Ute. (Tongue in cheek - he’s a good bloke and I like big fires)
Maybe thats more of a 200 owner thing...
When we go camping with my mate with a 200 the wood always goes in the back of the Disco or on the roof rack as does the rubbish.
 

boobook

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I gotta get into that gig. :cool:

I do it a different way to using other people's 4wds at the moment - except Utes of course.
 

mikehzz

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Just back from a weekend camping with a mate. I have a ranger, he has a 200 Sahara.
Guess which car gets used for going to cut firewood, running the rubbish out, carrying the chainsaw and fuel, blah blah blah. If you are going to be a ponce in an suv, make sure you camp with a mate who has a Ute, or just buy a Ute. (Tongue in cheek - he’s a good bloke and I like big fires)
The best advert for not having a ute, ever. :)
 

Loz666

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I've had both - A Prado and a BT50. We are just a couple, retired, so no 2yo to consider, but we have found the dual cab BT50 with a tradie canopy is way better for camping/touring. We found we were always shifting stuff around in the Prado, playing Tetris to locate what we needed. With the BT's canopy everything is simply accessible. And the dual cab configuration gives us 5 seats when we need them.

We chose the BT50/Ranger because they have class-leading room in the rear seats. It's a car in front and a truck behind. And it's more than adequately comfortable as a daily drive. Being a 4 door the cabin space would happily serve the needs of you and your little one. You'll need the room in a couple of years when your little one wants friends to camp with or when a sibling arrives. With a wagon I think you'll find the space fills up with people and you'll be hard put to pack what you need for everyone. With a ute, all the stuff goes in the back.

So I reckon the ute.
I can second this, at least the Prado part. It's actually quite small. I pulled the rear 2 seats out for drawers, so there's the cooking stuff & a small tool kit taken care of. Add a fridge, box of wood, chairs, table and you soon have to use the rear seats for soft/camping and recovery gear (hope for no mud).
If you go a roof bag that changes a lot but then you're into the hassle zone.

Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love the Prado but not for everyone, and not for every trip especially with kids which I imagine take up a bunch of space again.
 

synchro

Active Member
I can see how some might make that link. The lines are all blurred these days but am still just a daggy old tradie
The term comes from the US where it covers all smaller "rec" focused vehicles - pickups, utes, 4wds, non car based wagons, even in 2wd - larger motor homes not included as they are RVs.
 

Rusty Panels

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Just back from a weekend camping with a mate. I have a ranger, he has a 200 Sahara.
Guess which car gets used for going to cut firewood, running the rubbish out, carrying the chainsaw and fuel, blah blah blah. If you are going to be a ponce in an suv, make sure you camp with a mate who has a Ute, or just buy a Ute. (Tongue in cheek - he’s a good bloke and I like big fires)
Many moons ago when I had my old SWB Cruiser I used to cut down a tree or find a dropped one and drag it back to camp with a chain. Probably a tad lazy I guess but saved a lot of work and mess in the back.
 

cam04

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The term comes from the US where it covers all smaller "rec" focused vehicles - pickups, utes, 4wds, non car based wagons, even in 2wd - larger motor homes not included as they are RVs.

I understand where it comes from.


But Australia is the only country which refers to an open backed vehicle as a Ute.

The rest of the world uses utility in the term SUV with a different meaning - ie, being beneficial and having several uses, and I disagree that our Utes are SUV's under the American definition. They have never had a 'ute'. They have pickups, and their SUV's are enclosed wagons per the link? Well that's my take on it anyway.
 

synchro

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They have never had a 'ute'. They have pickups, and their SUV's are enclosed wagons per the link? Well that's my take on it anyway.

Absolute myth - the US has had utes (a variation of a sedan) since before we "invented" the ute. They called them coupe utiliy or roadster utility and we just abbreviated it to ute but was invented in the US not Aust - Look at 20s Model Ts - later El Camino and Rancheros - not pickups but coupe utilities.

The concept of a two-door vehicle based on a passenger car chassis with a tray at the rear began in the United States in the 1920s with the roadster utility. The Aussie Ute made by Ford did not come until later in 1932 sometime after the US utes.
 

G_ute

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I dunno, this is in the Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart.

1897, looks like some sort of ute to me...

Mercedes_Museum_2011_12.jpg
 

smitty_r51

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I dunno, this is in the Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart.

1897, looks like some sort of ute to me...

Mercedes_Museum_2011_12.jpg
Is it still a ute if it is not 3 inches off your back bumper with a kelpie trying to hang on the tray stood on the toolboxes that are thrown in loose?
 

barnsey062

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this video was interesting from Ronny Dahl good info from this point in the video if you don't want to watch the whole video
interesting comparison of most popular 4x4 suv & utes from this point in video here.

full video here
 
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