Travel Buddy Oven Trays

[Pubski]

A tip, Pubski, if you mention you now have a website, perhaps put a link to it in your post? Or is that not allowed?

Cheers,
Mark

There is a link to my website on the original post and there is one i posted here back in october. But here it is again. Got a few new items that should be up on website this week if you don't follow me on social medias.

https://somervillemetalworks.com.au/

Cheers Rory

 

[Batts88]

Just wondering why Travel Buddy dosn't have an insulated door and if fitting one would it have an effect on the life of the ovens electrical components due to heat buid up as some of the heat can escape via the door I may be over thinking it not sure.

 

[dno67]

There is a link to my website on the original post and there is one i posted here back in october. But here it is again. Got a few new items that should be up on website this week if you don't follow me on social medias.

https://somervillemetalworks.com.au/

Cheers Rory

You should add the link to your profile, then it'll show up at the bottom of every post you make. Good work.

 

[sharkcaver]

Just wondering why Travel Buddy dosn't have an insulated door and if fitting one would it have an effect on the life of the ovens electrical components due to heat buid up as some of the heat can escape via the door I may be over thinking it not sure.

To answer your question: cost I guess.

The amount of heat loss through the standard door would be minimal, certainly not an easily measured task in regards to it's energy consumption.

The marine is thermostatically controlled, once it reaches temp, it shuts off. When the temp drops. it fires back up.

Fitting an insulated door will allow the oven to get to temp marginally quicker and hold that temperature marginally longer before it turns back on.

It will have no effect on the lifespan of the element, nor the other electrical components, cause they are insulated from the oven anyway.

Which brings you back to the top of my circular post.

 

[Batts88]

To answer your question: cost I guess.

The amount of heat loss through the standard door would be minimal, certainly not an easily measured task in regards to it's energy consumption.

The marine is thermostatically controlled, once it reaches temp, it shuts off. When the temp drops. it fires back up.

Fitting an insulated door will allow the oven to get to temp marginally quicker and hold that temperature marginally longer before it turns back on.

It will have no effect on the lifespan of the element, nor the other electrical components, cause they are insulated from the oven anyway.

Which brings you back to the top of my circular post.

No worries thanks for the explaining that it makes sense.

 

[Hotdog]

Edit: question answer from web site emial.

 

[Triton14]

The marine is thermostatically controlled, once it reaches temp, it shuts off. When the temp drops. it fires back up.

Fitting an insulated door will allow the oven to get to temp marginally quicker and hold that temperature marginally longer before it turns back on.

Wouldn't both models have thermostats?

I like the idea of these ovens but it does leave me a bit perplexed as to why if the rest of the unit in insulated why you wouldn't insulate the door?
1. For a safety issue
2. For definitely an efficiency seeing as its battery operated & will certainly draw more power.

Im sure its been commented on that many times you would think the manufacture would look at this & revisit the design.

Just seems something easy to do, sure it would increase to weight a bit but I think having an insulated door would be a better pay off.

 

[Poppa]

Wouldn't both models have thermostats?

I like the idea of these ovens but it does leave me a bit perplexed as to why if the rest of the unit in insulated why you wouldn't insulate the door?
1. For a safety issue
2. For definitely an efficiency seeing as its battery operated & will certainly draw more power.

Im sure its been commented on that many times you would think the manufacture would look at this & revisit the design.

Just seems something easy to do, sure it would increase to weight a bit but I think having an insulated door would be a better pay off.

You are not the only bloke who has asked that question regarding insulating the door - got me buggered why the manufacturer hasn't done so. Must be a reason but I can't think of a reason not to insulate.

 

[Triton14]

You are not the only bloke who has asked that question regarding insulating the door - got me buggered why the manufacturer hasn't done so. Must be a reason but I can't think of a reason not to insulate.

No doubt on both accounts.

Well not sure if any has actually asked why but I have just sent them an email to find out why.

From what looks like such a great little unit to me its a design flaw but there has to be a reason, & a better reason than weight & cost saving!

 

[Swaggie]

Why doesn't someone actually email the manufacturer for they're answer...,

 

[Triton14]

Why doesn't someone actually email the manufacturer for they're answer...,

Please see my above post
'Well not sure if any has actually asked why but I have just sent them an email to find out why'

 

[Swaggie]

Please see my above post

Good Job

 

[Pubski]

From what I understand the reason why he never insulated was to have vents to allow steam and condensation out. The other brands have come up with a solution to this. I think he now at the point where he doesn't want to make design changes or ad extra cost and labour to manufacturing.

 

[Swaggie]

From what I understand the reason why he never insulated was to have vents to allow steam and condensation out. The other brands have come up with a solution to this. I think he now at the point where he doesn't want to make design changes or ad extra cost and labour to manufacturing.

That's interesting.Whats the next best alternative that has the insulation....

 

[Triton14]

I think he now at the point where he doesn't want to make design changes or ad extra cost and labour to manufacturing.

Wow, if that's the case they obviously don't care about their end consumer/customer very much imo!

I guess they are happy with the fact that 2nd party/after market manufacturers producing parts that they are missing out on sales wise

I just had a look back through this thread & found the link to this alternative

Travel Buddy Marine Oven (Large) Insulated Door Kit – Somerville Metalworks

somervillemetalworks.com.au

And looking at this comparison that someone else supplied if you have a look at the competitors door it wouldn't take much effort to make a solution.

Its great to support Australian made for sure but I think they also have to keep their product current & be able to make improvements where needed.

 

[Pubski]

I look at it from the point of having to compete with china. The road chef is a rip off and kickass have proven this they are the same oven but one is $80 cheaper goes to show the bloke who is selling the road chef is making a huge profit margin by copying the travel buddy and getting it made in china. Now your asking an Australian product to add more to his original product at a larger expense and compete with an oven that $60-70 cheaper? its not going to happen. Prices go up i think cost of stainless went up 6% in October last year. Would you be happy to pay $300 for a travel buddy if he added an insulated door and latch?

The insulated door doesn't offer huge improvements to temp of the door as you still have stainless in contact with direct heat. Even my door still gets hot as it touches the original door maybe not as hot as original but still hot.
It offers benefit in heat up time and heat retention but its not reinventing the wheel. It not suddenly going to make your pies cook in half the time. What ah saving to had might be ok but I find the oven work best when cars running so amperage savings are neglible.
So really it comes down to does it make a huge difference that's its a must have thing the answer is no. I never tell anyone that it's a must have or mod to do to your oven. I offer it only because people wanted it.

Just for clarification my door goes over the original door and adds 14mm to the oven. The reason for this is if I put it on inside the trays I have sold for years wouldn't fit so I would hate for previous customers to buy it and trays not fit.

 

[Triton14]

Would you be happy to pay $300 for a travel buddy if he added an insulated door and latch?

The answer is pretty simple to me...……..Yes!

But you also make trays to fit the Road Chef as well so Im sure you could come up with another tray to fit the insulated door for a Travel buddy if it ever happened.

Personally & this could be just me here but I wouldn't really want to use the oven in a fully packed rear tray & while on the move so I would see less battery drain to be an advantage while stationary when your set up for an evening camp.

 

[sharkcaver]

I look at it from the point of having to compete with china. The road chef is a rip off and kickass have proven this they are the same oven but one is $80 cheaper goes to show the bloke who is selling the road chef is making a huge profit margin by copying the travel buddy and getting it made in china. Now your asking an Australian product to add more to his original product at a larger expense and compete with an oven that $60-70 cheaper? its not going to happen. Prices go up i think cost of stainless went up 6% in October last year. Would you be happy to pay $300 for a travel buddy if he added an insulated door and latch?

The insulated door doesn't offer huge improvements to temp of the door as you still have stainless in contact with direct heat. Even my door still gets hot as it touches the original door maybe not as hot as original but still hot.
It offers benefit in heat up time and heat retention but its not reinventing the wheel. It not suddenly going to make your pies cook in half the time. What ah saving to had might be ok but I find the oven work best when cars running so amperage savings are neglible.
So really it comes down to does it make a huge difference that's its a must have thing the answer is no. I never tell anyone that it's a must have or mod to do to your oven. I offer it only because people wanted it.

Just for clarification my door goes over the original door and adds 14mm to the oven. The reason for this is if I put it on inside the trays I have sold for years wouldn't fit so I would hate for previous customers to buy it and trays not fit.

And one other thing about your insulated door you didn't mention:

The door mod comes with a clasp clip to keep the door closed. I've never had it happen, but some have had their door open up in the rough, and the oven contents thrown all about the place. For the cost of the door as an after market accessory, its a no brainer. Consolidate your postage with 2 other items - a standard and a deep tray maybe? Thanks for you work Pubski. Your product is top notch quality and it's great to see your little sideline is taking off into orbit. bet you never expected that to happen.

 

[Triton14]

And one other thing about your insulated door you didn't mention:

The door mod comes with a clasp clip to keep the door closed. I've never had it happen, but some have had their door open up in the rough, and the oven contents thrown all about the place. For the cost of the door as an after market accessory, its a no brainer. Consolidate your postage with 2 other items - a standard and a deep tray maybe? Thanks for you work Pubski. Your product is top notch quality and it's great to see your little sideline is taking off into orbit. bet you never expected that to happen.

So it sounds like my point of driving while cooking is a valid one then!
I thought it was just me?

I don't mean to rub salt into any wounds here but I am a qualified chef of 36 years & I don't leave any food unattended while cooking unless its in a $25,000+ Rational oven sitting on a concrete kitchen floor which it is designed to do.

 

[dno67]

So it sounds like, I am a qualified chef of 36 years & I don't leave any food unattended while cooking unless its in a $25,000+ Rational oven sitting on a concrete kitchen floor which it is designed to do.

fixed.


How un Australian is that ?
Sorry, thats just not cricket.. haha
TIC.