I remember when I bought my previous 4wd, a Ford Explorer. People told me a whole lot of terrible stuff about Explorers, and I guess to some extent I believed them. That was until I found myself accidently on a local forest road without back up or recovery gear, a deadly uphill track that was wet and slippery with numerous axle deep bog holes (and highway tyres of course). I faltered, my wife encouraged me: "You've done it 'undreds of times before. Besides you can ring home for help with the mobile!" Well I really pushed the Explorer and it came through brilliantly. Just as well, I got home to find the mobile on the table! Ooops! Regards Tats