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How to compare good and bad flexible solar panels

How to buy the best lightweight, flexible solar panels for a caravan or boat?
You want your purchase to meet your expectations and provide value for money.

The problem is there are many claims about flexible solar panels and it can be difficult for a consumer to know what is accurate and what is misleading.

This guide aims to assist you in your decision making so you can make an informed choice.

Facts you MUST know before buying flexible marine or RV solar panels
It is in our best interest that both the public and businesses have a positive experience with flexible solar panels, and that will only happen if customers are happy with their purchase.

Just because a website claims they have the 'best' solar panels does not mean you will get quality products and accurate information so 'Buyer Beware'! We want you to avoid the pitfalls when buying flexible solar panels so you are not disappointed after your purchase.

The owner of Solar 4 RVs is committed to providing accurate and honest information and undertakes extensive research and testing. He is a highly qualified and experienced electrical/electronics engineer with over 30 years experience as a marine engineer and systems engineer working on some of Australia's largest and most complex defence projects. Read his bio here

Are you only comparing prices?
The price can be a good indicator of the quaity of the panels. If the price is too good to be true then it probably is too good to be true!

We constantly receive many ‘proposals’ from Chinese manufacturers that offer ‘cheap’ panels. This can be very tempting for sellers of solar panels as it means they can achieve a better profit margin. However, you get what you pay for so customers need to balance the risk of buying cheaper flexible solar panels against the purchase price.

Flexible solar panels can be offered by Chinese manufacturers at a cheap price because they are mass produced in large production runs with low cost cells and materials and minimal quality control checkpoints.

Possible issues that could be encountered when purchasing cheap flexible solar panels:

  • overlapping cells;
  • damaged cells;
  • inferior cells (are you really getting SunPower cells? see information below);
  • sharp edges;
  • inadequately sealed junction boxes allowing corrosion from water, particularly sea water;
  • zinc plated fixings in the junction box which corrode with moisture;
  • inferior by-pass diodes fitted or not fitted at all.

Getting quality lightweight flexible solar panels
It's not WHERE they are made that is important - it is HOW they are made

The majority of flexible solar panels are made in China even if the seller doesn't declare this and refers to 'cells' as being made in the US. There are many manufacturers in China and they produce various grades of solar panels and then on-sell them through pro-active marketing campaigns and email cold-calling.

If a supplier carries small quantities of stock they are unlikely to have been manufactured in separate production runs to specific quality requirements. They will probably be off-the-shelf stock.

Solar 4 RVs does not purchase unknown ‘grades’ of panels and in fact we do not purchase any panels from standard manufacturing runs. Our flexible solar panels are made in separate production runs by trusted manufacturers in China to our strict specifications..

Checks undertaken during the manufacturing process are extremely important. All our flexible solar panels are all tested during production.

Flexible solar panel testing during production
During production all our solar panels are subjected to testing:

• Electrical testing, i.e. voltage and current; plus

• Electroluminescence (EL) testing.

The electrical test confirms the current and voltage are within production limits while the EL test confirms that the cells are free of defects and are well matched. If present these result in a lower panel output and possibly a shortened lifespan.

During the EL test a current is passed through the panel which turns part of the current into short-wave infra-red (SWIR) light at a wavelength of around 1150nm, i.e. the panel will “glow” with invisible infra-red light. A photo of the “glowing” panel taken by a special camera will show up micro-cracks or other defects in the cells and any significant mismatch between cells.

These issues are only visible with this EL test. The first of the following three images show a very poor quality panel with many defective cells. The second image shows up significant mismatches between cells, i.e. the intensity of the glow is related to the efficiency with which the cell will convert sunlight into electricity. The third image shows a panel free of cell defects and with only small variations in cell efficiency.

The RADpower, eArche and Solbian solar panels that we stock all undergo these tests.

Are you really getting genuine SunPower cells in your flexible solar panel?
SunPower has a reputation for producing the highest efficiency cells. They are widely used in rigid, framed, glass topped solar panels for residential and commercial settings.

At around 22% SunPower cells have one of the highest efficiency of any available cell on the market. A solar panel assembled from these cells has an overall efficiency around the 20%, with the 2% loss being attributable to the inter-connections and the slight opacity of the top layers. We have seen some websites claim efficiencies of 22% for a panel, but this is an exaggeration.

Solbian has certification from SunPower that confirms they obtain geniune SunPower cells.

Many flexible solar panels sellers state their products have SunPower cells. How can you tell you are getting the real deal?

  • The SunPower company provides certification to the manufacturer when they supply them with SunPower cells. Even if their manufacturer does have certification it doesn't necessarily mean ALL their panels are manufactured using SunPower cells. This is because manufacturers make and sell different grades of solar panels at different price levels depending on quality.
  • The SunPower company limits the size of flexible solar panels manufactured using their cells to 150W. The failure rates for larger panels increases due to mechanical and thermal stresses on the panel. If you see larger sizes of flexible solar panels claiming they have SunPower cells then questions about the accuracy of the claims need to be raised.
  • SunPower cells are expensive to buy and manufacturers need to pass on these costs so if a flexible solar panel is very cheap then it is highly unlikely they contain genuine Sunpower cells or they may contain 'seconds' or low grade cells.
Solbian SP solar panels use MAXEON GEN III SunPower cells, the latest technology and highest efficiency available.

How long do flexble solar panels last?
This depends on the materials used during manufacture and how they are installed. A vented air gap underneath the solar panel will prevent it getting too hot which has a positive impact on output performance and the longevity of your panel.

What materials are used in manufacture? Does the supplier clearly outline what cells are used and the encapsulation?

Our flexible solar panels are made with the latest technology utilising an ETFE top surface. We constantly undertake research testing to stay at the forefront of improvements.

ETFE (Ethylene-Tetra-Fluoro-Ethylene) is a high-strength fluorine polymer that is corrosion and stain resistant, non-stick self cleaning, and retains its clarity (and therefore light transmittance) ensuring long service life for solar panels. It will not discolour or degrade from exposure to environmental pollution, UV light, harsh chemicals or extreme temperature variations. The surface is textured for extra robustness.

Read our buyer guide outling the benefits of ETFE here

Buying cheap flexible solar panels can be very costly!
Cheap flexible solar panels can work out to be a very expensive purchase!

You may find the price of some flexible solar panels on-line tempting but if the panels you receive have defective and chipped cells or junction boxes that will corrode quickly you are not really getting a bargain. You really do get what you pay for.

Cheap panels may only last a very short time before they fail and when the warranty is not honoured you will be left out of pocket. Removing the panels and trying to negotiate replacements has proved to be frustrating for many consumers.

If you are one of the many who think there is not much difference between flexible solar panels on the market - think again.

Issues you may encounter when buying cheap flexible solar panels
Really cheap flexible solar panels are made in a manner that keeps costs to minimum using a mixture of various cheap low grade cells, usually seconds. Individual cells are graded for quality at the time of manufacture. Good quality solar panels only use high-grade cells, while cheaper panels use lower grade cells, or a mix of different grades cells to keep costs down. You can tell this by an inconsistency in the colour of the cells across the one panel. Cells that are seconds may have cracks, chips and damaged surfaces.

The junction boxes where the positive and negative cables connect with the panel and where the bypass diodes are fitted requires careful soldering and sealing with heat conducting sealant to prevent corrosion and to dissipate heat from the diodes. Junction boxes in cheap panels rarely have more than one diode and are usually not sealed. Moisture will quickly corrode the junction box internals when sealant is not applied.

The encapsulation layers are usually made from the cheapest materials available and may come apart, fade or warp over time.

The completed panels rarely go through quaity control and testing prior to shipment.

Images of damaged cell edges

Images of damaged cells that are probably seconds (to keep the costs down)

Image of various widths of spacing between cells

Warranties not honoured
When the cheap panels fail the biggest frustration is usually the inabiity to obtain replacements under warranty. Often the seller is not contactable or finds a reason not to honour the warranty. In the rare instance that a replacement is provided it generally fails as quickly as the first purchase.

Meanwhile the time and effort to remove the faulty panel(s) and re-install replacements is time-consuming and costly.

Sellers of cheap solar panels can have a tendancy to change their business name frequently and then continue to operate using different email addresses.

Case Study - Solar panels used by caravan manufacturer
We were asked to visit a caravan manufacturer as they were having a very high failulre rate with a well known cheap brand of flexible solar panels and they wanted an alternative.

Customers complaints about the solar system failing was not good for their caravan brand reputation. The time, effort and cost in replacing the panels was significant.

When our Engineer was there they pulled a new panel from out of its packaging from the stock they were using so it could be examined. The panel photographs below were taken from that one unused panel.

Image of the solar panel - it is made up of a inconsistent colour solar cells, possibly seconds.

Image of yellow line through cells possibly caused by drum roller during manufacture

Image of various spacing widths between cells

Image of eyelet incorrectly fitted

Image of poor soldering in the junction box.

The junction box edge has been damaged (partly melted) by the soldering iron which means the junction box lid does not seal properly. There is also no sealant over the connections. This means humidity or moisture will rapidly cause corrosion and failure.

Only one bypass diode is used.

Comparison to lightweight solar panels that Solar 4 RVs sells

Only high grade solar cells are used.

eArche lightweight solar panels have glass fibre-reinforced encapsulation similar to aircraft windows yet they are only 2mm thick!

All panels have an ETFE top layer for UV protection and robustness.

Exampe of RADpower Smart-wire flexible solar panel junction box that has have two bypass diodes, and are properly soldered

The entire junction is sealed prior to the lid going on to prevent corrosion from moisture.

After undergoing Electrical testing and Electroluminescence (EL) testing all our panels get a tamper-proof serial number, usually found under the top lamination so the manufacturer can refer back to it for warranty claims and trace performance back to the test data.

Accreditations, certifications and standards - don't be misled
ISO9001 Quality Accreditation

Our RADpower flexible solar panel manufacturer is accredited with the ISO9001 quality management system.

According to ISO9001, “This standard is based on a number of quality management principles including a strong customer focus, the motivation and implication of top management, the process approach and continual improvement." Using ISO 9001 helps ensure consistent, good quality products and services so we are confident our manufacturer is quality focussed.

However, a quality focus with policies, procedures and documents in place does not realistically ensure every product off a production line will be of high quality. Customers need to be be aware that it is a good indicator of quality but it is not a checklist for product quality or an endorsement of the quality of a particular product.

Australian and International Standards

The international standard for performance testing of crystalline (both mono and poly crystalline) PV panels is IEC-61215. Certification to IEC-61215 is a pre-requisite for PV panels to be used in residential applications in Australia, but is NOT for PV panels on other structures such as caravans and boats. eArche solar panels are the only lightweight solar panels that have this certification as they are approved for installation on buildings.

The primary standard covering solar panels in Australia is AUS/NZ 5033 Installation and safety requirements for photovoltaic (PV) arrays which references several international standards covering testing and certification of solar panels. Subject to the specifics in the standards, panels that are installed onto buildings and ground installations must be certified to the standards, and in addition, for the Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) the panels must also be listed in the Clean Energy Council (CEC) register of certified panels. eArche solar panels are the only lightweight solar panel accredited by the Australian Clean Energy Council.

Generally, for panels installed into mobile situations the panels do not need the certifications as mentioned in AUS/NZ 5033, however all products must still conform to all the overarching standards that apply in order for a product to be sold in Australia. These are similar to the requirements for CE marking in Europe.

If a company claims that their flexible solar panels conform to the Australia Standard then it would be pertinent to investgate further into the credibiity of their claims.

CE Mark

Our panels carry the CE Mark which is a mandatory mark for certain product groups, including solar panels and electronic products, in order for them to be sold in the European market. The requirements are set out in European Directives (similar to Australia’s Regulations and Acts) that cover health, safety and environmental protection legislation.

The use of the CE mark, indicates self-certification by the manufacturer that the device meets the minimum European Union requirements for Electro Magnetic Compatibility (EMC) compliance.

The CE mark has nothing to do with the quality, performance and longevity of the panel. CE is the abbreviation for the French phrase "Conformité Européene", i.e. in English "European Conformity".

Flexible solar panel warranties - will they be honoured?
Is there only mobile phone contact? Sellers of flexible solar panels without any infrastructure or bricks and mortar can easily shut down when warranty claims for cheap panels become an issue.

Who can you trust?

Anyone can set-up a website and claim they are experts or leaders in the field, even if they are unqualified and selling a few panels out of the garage, but do they really have the knowledge required. With flexible solar panels becoming popular there are many people starting up webshops to sell them online.

Solar 4 RVs is a multi-award-winning company that is publicly acknowledged as the leader in lightweight solar systems for mobile applications including caravans and boats. The family business operates across Australia, New Zealand and the South Pacific from their showroom, warehouse and offices in the Melbourne suburb of Rowville. The premises also has a workshop with testing facilities.

Solar 4 RVs stocks the largest range of lightweight solar panels in Australia. we are the official and exclsive Australia, New Zealand importers of the Italian mde Solbian brand. and Giocosolutions brand by Fly SolarTech. We are also the official seller of eArche thin lightweight panels to the mobile market. We supply hundreds of businesses including government departments as well as the public.

In summary
We receive many phone calls from consumers wanting to buy our premium solar panels after being disappointed with solar panels purchased elsewhere.
They realise too late that it is worth spending that little more to obtain a quality product in the first instance. When things go wrong, they end up spending a great deal more by having to replace their original purchase.

Don't believe everything you read and make sure you are confident that the business you choose will supply a quality product, honour an appropriate warranty and is knowledgeable enough to provide accurate and honest advice and support before, during an after your purchase.


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Great articles. Not sure on everyone else but I’m still more keen on the fixed panels. Seemed to have to custom make airing layers etc etc with the flex panels, I didn’t see the sense for a caravan roof at least.


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Great articles. Not sure on everyone else but I’m still more keen on the fixed panels. Seemed to have to custom make airing layers etc etc with the flex panels, I didn’t see the sense for a caravan roof at least.
yeh Flexi is last resort, but has its purpose. For my 4wd canopy it’s perfect set and forget , keeps my 75L dual zone fridge fed year round (albeit at home when parked for a few days I’ll I park in car port and plug in an AC float power supply which lives onboard)

biggest issue is heat and there’s no real way to give enough air gap without completely contradicting the benefit of Flexi in the first place


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the mob who we bought our van off used to use flexi panels glued to the roof from one of the top manufacturers but have stopped using them and now mounts solid due to all the issues that were coming up and the manufacturer not honoring any warranty claims , plus the fact that solid keep the van cooler and work better


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Get a lithium and you wont even need your solar. I have a 190w redarc and never use it now unless im camped for 3 or 4 days but even then i still dont need it really and it charges really quick.


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I have 2x 120amp lithium. I also have 2 kids, a wife, a dog, a 24ft van and a 225lt waeco fridge to power. I last about 2 days without recharging so getting the solar right is critical for us :)


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oh and we live in it permanently. trying to have less impact on the environment (and more free camping too).

ididnt know there was so much to know about the panels themselves, just assumed the stated output was more of a gospel. Very annoying.