Shock adjustment - Is it even worth it?

Marck

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Ok so after spending a week on Fraser Island generously grading the tracks with my new 150 Prado I have decided it’s time to give the suspension a little bit of a tickle to get a little more clearance so I am not the lowest clearance vehicle everywhere I go. It was ok in the Suzuki because the narrow wheel track let me sit on the edges of the big boys ruts but that’s not an option anymore.

I have been reading and talking to manufacturers and installers looking for the best solution for keeping the new bus well behaved and comfortable on the road where it spends 90 percent of its life but making it useful for the few trips we get out on each year. Places like Fraser Island the cape and with any luck places like the high country tassie and maybe the Gulf over the next 2 or 3 years. I basically wanted something that will cope with a few hours of “commuting“ over rough corrugated roads.

I think I have narrowed it down to a couple of options. Both Dobinsons. 50mm is the target height. And will be going up a tire size which I think will get me roughly 15 mm from the tyres. The car will have a bar and winch also.

Option 1 is Dobinsons IMS with 100kg+ springs in the front and “comfort“ springs in the rear with a set of airbags for when I load up for the trips. This is roughly $2600 fitted.

Option 2 is Dobinsons MRR Adjustable remote res all round with the same or different spring setup in the rear. This is up at an eye watering $4k roughly. This option is quoted with front sway bar relocation and extended rear sway bar links.

So here are my questions that someone with more experience might be able to help with. With the remote res option I fully understand that for my application that the remote res part of this setup is huge overkill. And if it was just remote res I was buying for the extra money I wouldn’t even think about it. But is the 4 way adjustability of the shocks worth it. In the sense of will it offer enough adjustment to give that nice plush gooey on road Prado feel and allow settings that will give me better control of the coronations and the tracks. Or is it just not going to do what I hope it will. For $1500 it needs to be a fairly drastic upside.

The second question is do I actually need the sway bar relocation and extended links. It’s about $250 of extras but if they Don’t offer any improvement why bother and if they are essential do I have them added to the non remote res option. The 2 options have come from 2 different sellers so getting to the bottom of what is just a way to strip $$ out of my holiday funds and what is actually needed.

Dobinsons have always looked after me when I have had any issues that’s why I picked them over the other manufacturers but I am more than happy to listen to any other options that people might have based on good experience.

Thanks
M
 

phs

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Adjustment is definitely worth it given the valving is good to start with

Never used MRR but when there Gen1 remote res was released they got fairly average reviews from there customers, never seen there current 3
Way adjustable shocks so can’t comment

they look the part but the equivalent features on a king would set you back over 10k so I don’t know if that is because king are just over priced or the MRR are cheap imposters
 

cam04

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Did you do any cross island tracks on fraser? With adjustables you can sail over the tree roots and chopped out bits much easier. You do want long travel to go with them to get the best out of them. There is a definite advantage in being able to back shocks off off-road - ie Baja buggy. You can also dial out a little bit of the prado boat handling on the road - somewhat.
 

CaptainBanana

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You're not really looking at the most highly regarded shocks for reliability I don't think I'm not sure how they actually drive though I've not owned their shocks but I have owned plenty of others. Being a Toyota you've got more aftermarket support than probably all other brands I wouldn't limit myself to those if comfort and original ride is a massive consideration look at koni raid shocks. Don't get caught up in the flash braided lines and external canisters and all the other crap that is not going to benefit you.
 
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Marck

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I can’t really find any real world user feed back on them being a fairly new product. Only the dribble from sponsored reviews. I am far from being caught up by the pretty bits. My focus is extracting as much performance out of whatever I buy on and off road. Understanding that It’s going to be a compromise between the two I don’t mind spending a little more to get that.
I will have a read up on the Koni Raid. Any advise is appreciated.
 

phs

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Hey mate

give Zordo a call gets raving reviews and has setup a lot of prados

 

CaptainBanana

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In simple terms a shock absorber is a heat pump - if you get a large body shock absorber like the konis they will be holding more oil and therefore able to tolerate more heat before they fade. Also koni is very good at the valving for comfort. Right now I'm running American spec Bilstein 5100s series which are another very comfortable shock absorber and do everything I can throw at them - my car has been used for fire trails, massive rock tracks we've done sand dunes and I tow a 20 ft caravan with it - no issues here.
 

unko84

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I have koni 90 raid I have them seance 15 they where the best for my 4x4 at the time in the price bracket I wanted to pay the next was kings witch at the time was $1000 per corner and the koni where $500, even with the the shock was to big I had to get full aftermarket suspension because the tolerances where so tight every think had to be lined up just right.
 
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