Sand tyres

frosty

4x4 Earth Contributer
Rocky and sandy are usually two very different things!

Sand, I know little about. However, cruiserlad reckons HT or AT tyres work best. Can't dig your self into a too bigga hole too quickly. :eek: Probably the only thing he's ever said that makes sense!! :rolleyes:

"Rocky", I use BFG Mud Terrains. Agressive and bitey tread pattern and 3 thicknesses of sidewall. 255/85-16 (very very important!!) I don't think any A/T tyre has a 3 ply sidewall.

2 very different situations that need 2 different solutions. Although, if you don't want 2 sets of tyres sitting around or can't afford it, just buy good quality tyres, set your pressures correctly and don't stretch the envelope too far.:)
 

chopper

New Member
I a big fan of aggressive tyres, I make the assumption that you spent all this money on a 4by so that you could go offroad, if you wanted street tyres you should have bought an excel or commodore... :cool:


anyway, there is a great myth about MTs digging you in in sand. I would suggest that it is wheel spin that digs you in, not the aggressiveness of the tyres. If your wheels are spinning, you have too much pressure, or too much right boot (or both).

I have found that in very fine, mineral sand, MTs act as paddle wheels and keep dragging you forward, assuming that you are moving at all.

Obviously in rock having a conformng tread face is super important, and the greater void between the tread blocks of a MT also helps here.

Success in 4wding is about just two things, traction and clearance, you have less than 1/4 of a square meter (or thereabouts) of contact with the ground, make the most of it. :D



remember that "one revolution of wheels + no forward movement = bogged" more wheelspin is not going to make you suddenly start moving again.


cheers
 

cptmud

New Member
for sand and rock, a mud terrain tyre would be a good comprimise. Something like a bfg muddie. maxxis bighorn or micky thompson mtz,They are not too aggrisive, and i would run as a road tyre.
Once you start to get into the aggrisive tyres , simex and the like , these are suited to muddy conditions, and are less suited to sand and rocky conditions.
 

rum honey

New Member
I agree !

I a big fan of aggressive tyres, I make the assumption that you spent all this money on a 4by so that you could go offroad, if you wanted street tyres you should have bought an excel or commodore... :cool:

wheel spin that digs you in, not the aggressiveness of the tyres. If your wheels are spinning, you have too much pressure, o
anyway, there is a great myth about MTs digging you in in sand. I would suggest that it is r too much right boot (or both).

I have found that in very fine, mineral sand, MTs act as paddle wheels and keep dragging you forward, assuming that you are moving at all.

Obviously in rock having a conformng tread face is super important, and the greater void between the tread blocks of a MT also helps here.

Success in 4wding is about just two things, traction and clearance, you have less than 1/4 of a square meter (or thereabouts) of contact with the ground, make the most of it. :D



remember that "one revolution of wheels + no forward movement = bogged" more wheelspin is not going to make you suddenly start moving again.


cheers

Had mud treads on my late cruiser and spent a lot of time on the beach . Let them down and go anywhere . Theory is they have a equell foot print as any other tyre but don't clog with sand so you would think still go froward movement . Good for rocks as well . Bad side have to drive on bitumen to get there .Twenty thou KS at best then buy new ones . Put desert duelers on to see if they were the compromise .Had them years ago and where good in the bush ( hard th get stuck ) had a few tripes on the beach and liked them . Yes its all about deflation . Unfortunately sold car with new tyres to find out for real if they are good ,in the bush , as well as wear.They might have changed the wear factor as they were really good . ( can't have them going for to long , can we ! MIGHT NOT MAKE MONEY ) Has anyone been using them ? or are they a forgotten brand ? To often we fall in to the flavor of the month brand .
 

phs

Well-Known Member
i just got back from a trip on the sand i was running 33 12.5 15's pro comp mud terrain
id have to say the tyre presure is 100% the key i droped them from 38psi to 20 after getting stuck it made a huge difference still needed a bit of help up a sand hill but not much, i should of dropped the tyre presure to 15 or lower but oh well next time, i found once i was up and going there was no stoping me but once i stop half was up a hill NO GOOD, and also found out in this case crawling at the slowest of speeds is the best options only letting it idle up the hill thus not spinning.
 

danhilux

New Member
i agree 100% with chopper, i have mud terrain's and i went further with them in the soft sand than my mate that had all terrain's....great traction all round with the bfgoodrich muddies. had them so far for about 30 thousand k's or so still got heaps of tread....
 
Last edited:

cruiserlad

4x4 Earth Contributer
put what ever tyres you want on just make sure you lower your tyre pressures ive got nankang mudstars and have not been bogged once on fraser double island and bribie snatched plenty of people out but thats because they didnt let there tyre pressure down and also have a compressor to pump them back up when you have finished playing 26 pounnds is a good starting point for sand or rocks and go down from there but if you havent got bead locks stop at 15pounds you can go lower to get out of a real sticky situation but pump them back up again once your free of it
cheers rob
 
Top