Second Hand. Because about 10 years of real touring or even general camping in even a brand new 100K 4wd will be a moneypit, and as I tend to say life is well & truly too short for that pathetic crap. Cheap 2nd hand Petrol will go 200K or 10years before wreakers, buy another cheapy & repeat. But many won't understand because they work & go away once a year if there lucky & so they can get away with alot more years. Heck some ride around in the suburbs with 30year+ Patrols etc.
My philosophy in life with 4wds is, if you can't buy one on a whim with lunch money you can't afford it! Even retired people I know had to slave their life for that nice rig, & for what??? They are unhappy in life, ha ha ha.... Should have thought less about the destination...
So that is why I got a Gen 3 Pajero which imo will go down in history as the best value for buck 4wd ever. 10grand with 190,000km vs 20grand+ for same mileage petrol Patrol vs 30grand same milage petrol 100series, and driven by mums, not ex tourers who thrashed the hell out of it. Fantastic that Pajeros dont hold their value, love that thank you people so much. Also there is a reason I spent roughly 10K on my 4wd, so I could actually spend money on a good setup. Like 10K for electrix, 5K for RTT, BIG bucks on diy camping gear that yields real pleasure while outdoors, not many can claim to have a large ss sink with running water, dish rack, RV washing machine, two gensets etc etc, sooo many people buy these new 4wds & cheap out on the eletrix, ask questions like "are these cheap lithiums good?" You know they can't afford them when the blabber on about fuel consumption, just look at the threads. I have never once gave fuel economy any thought. Again in my book if your concerned about fuel economy you really can't afford it plain & simple.
However I don't see the logic in buying high value 2nd hand, to me that is truly nuts, just work a bit harder & get a brand new 70series, why risk it for 10-15K??? have a look at how many drive their trucks like they stole it. It makes me cringe really, again pajero doesn't have this problem.
Given I'm a perfectionist, I could never live with my self spending that amount of money for a vehicle that isn't made of stainless, comes with orange peel, OMG i saw a guy with a 150K holden & it has orange peel!!! He was completely oblivious to it, yet to me it stood out like dogs balls. I see every new 4wd with orange peel at the lights. The paint jobs if they can even be called that are a disgrace for these grossly inflated cars. For that money I expect the paint job to actually look like a mirror, and don't bother cut n polish, the paint job is screwed up from the layers underneath by the awful technique, the OP is always present & all you will achieve is to thin the paint out making it vulnerable to the elements.
Other reasons:
All the rust that has formed on cars I have seen has been from manufacture design flaw were water was allowed to pool & were paint was applied very thin.
After all these countless decades nobody has actually made second row seating that is large enough for adults.
I don't believe in paying insurance, that is how the man inslaves you.
End of the day for me camping & touring simply don't warrant such money & there is always 10 things better in life to spend it on.
My philosophy in life with 4wds is, if you can't buy one on a whim with lunch money you can't afford it! Even retired people I know had to slave their life for that nice rig, & for what??? They are unhappy in life, ha ha ha.... Should have thought less about the destination...
So that is why I got a Gen 3 Pajero which imo will go down in history as the best value for buck 4wd ever. 10grand with 190,000km vs 20grand+ for same mileage petrol Patrol vs 30grand same milage petrol 100series, and driven by mums, not ex tourers who thrashed the hell out of it. Fantastic that Pajeros dont hold their value, love that thank you people so much. Also there is a reason I spent roughly 10K on my 4wd, so I could actually spend money on a good setup. Like 10K for electrix, 5K for RTT, BIG bucks on diy camping gear that yields real pleasure while outdoors, not many can claim to have a large ss sink with running water, dish rack, RV washing machine, two gensets etc etc, sooo many people buy these new 4wds & cheap out on the eletrix, ask questions like "are these cheap lithiums good?" You know they can't afford them when the blabber on about fuel consumption, just look at the threads. I have never once gave fuel economy any thought. Again in my book if your concerned about fuel economy you really can't afford it plain & simple.
However I don't see the logic in buying high value 2nd hand, to me that is truly nuts, just work a bit harder & get a brand new 70series, why risk it for 10-15K??? have a look at how many drive their trucks like they stole it. It makes me cringe really, again pajero doesn't have this problem.
Given I'm a perfectionist, I could never live with my self spending that amount of money for a vehicle that isn't made of stainless, comes with orange peel, OMG i saw a guy with a 150K holden & it has orange peel!!! He was completely oblivious to it, yet to me it stood out like dogs balls. I see every new 4wd with orange peel at the lights. The paint jobs if they can even be called that are a disgrace for these grossly inflated cars. For that money I expect the paint job to actually look like a mirror, and don't bother cut n polish, the paint job is screwed up from the layers underneath by the awful technique, the OP is always present & all you will achieve is to thin the paint out making it vulnerable to the elements.
Other reasons:
All the rust that has formed on cars I have seen has been from manufacture design flaw were water was allowed to pool & were paint was applied very thin.
After all these countless decades nobody has actually made second row seating that is large enough for adults.
I don't believe in paying insurance, that is how the man inslaves you.
End of the day for me camping & touring simply don't warrant such money & there is always 10 things better in life to spend it on.
But I've gotta say, while I'm no whiz as a mechanic, I'd be more prepared to have a crack at fixing a carby on the side of the road than I would a fuel injection system (although in all honesty, I've never had one of those fail on me).
