Albynsw
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I am not so much comparing the V8 to the 2.8 because agree the manual V8 box isn’t a brilliant tow configuration but more so that they are effectively now selling an equivalent option to the Hilux in many ways
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I am not so much comparing the V8 to the 2.8 because agree the manual V8 box isn’t a brilliant tow configuration but more so that they are effectively now selling an equivalent option to the Hilux in many ways
LongRoad2Go
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Perhaps that could be modified to: not a brilliant tow config on open roads, but very good on tough and challenging terrain ... especially regarding stress on the engine and longevity.
cam04
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Maybe if they stuck a prado badge on the 4cyl ones? The 76 started out as the very first prado back in the 80’s with a 4 cyl diesel….
discomatt
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Have you seen how they perform in hard 4wding? I assume not with that comment and no I don’t refer to rough dirt roads but actual tough 4wd tracks
They would have to be the most over rated 4wd on the market after seeing how they perform in the real world, the Prado does better
Albynsw
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Not disagreeing with you but that is not what they are built for. The strength is standing up to the continuous beating of outback tracks over hundreds of thousands of K’s
Those others that are built for crawling etc won’t do the same
In Cambodia the most popular dual cabs are Ford Rangers. They are everywhere, and driven harshly.
Australia is a small market. The UN and NGOs (and terrororist groups) need basic vehicles...isn't the 2.8 also 'basic'?
We can all agree that the V8 will be gone soon. Have to move with the times. Wishing for a unicorn isn't going to hapen.
The 70s series is a global platform so global decisions will probably dictate what happens moving forward.
discomatt
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I am waiting for the unicorn , a V8 with a decent power output, rear axle the same width as the front and a auto, preferably 8 speed, supplied and sold by Toyota not all aftermarket which voids all warranty
The crap seats, radio, sound deadening and brakes I can live with
The crap seats, radio, sound deadening and brakes I can live with
joshinthecity
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Tundra Will be as close as you'll get to that spec I'd say. (3.5TT)
But it'll be 150k......
But it'll be 150k......
Albynsw
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Yes the 2.8 is still basic but it isn’t going to click up the big k’s like a lazy 8. I don’t have an issue with the 2.8 other than them trying to oversell it as the new improved version
LongRoad2Go
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Well, as indicated in a previous post, bit the bullet and ordered a 79 Series GXL V8 during the week - had to reassure them a few times it was for the V8 NOT the 2.8. Couldn't pass up the offer as it was the best received. Also gave them the heads-up on a predelivery non-Toyota tray install.
Hey, it's ONLY money, right?
When is it due? Isn't that a bit of a running gag these days? ETA December-ish ... seems my Avatar is now even more pertinent, wishful thinking.
Hey, it's ONLY money, right?
When is it due? Isn't that a bit of a running gag these days? ETA December-ish ... seems my Avatar is now even more pertinent, wishful thinking.
Albynsw
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Well, as indicated in a previous post, bit the bullet and ordered a 79 Series GXL V8 during the week - had to reassure them a few times it was for the V8 NOT the 2.8. Couldn't pass up the offer as it was the best received. Also gave them the heads-up on a predelivery non-Toyota tray install.
Hey, it's ONLY money, right?
When is it due? Isn't that a bit of a running gag these days? ETA December-ish ... seems my Avatar is now even more pertinent, wishful thinking.
Well done, single or dual cab?
LongRoad2Go
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Single cab, 'Taliban tan'.
Albynsw
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Nice one , what are your plans for the build?
LongRoad2Go
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Had the last +3 years to ruminate on that, and to a certain degree still ruminating - as you probably know with your truck build, such things are never really finished, it just keeps evolving, but, critical to have a solid foundation.
The primary description is: a 'lightweight' work and overlanding vehicle. (No tow bar, RTT or roof racks)
Already have most of the mandatory gear: First Aid Kit, recovery gear and air compressor. Need to get a PLB.
Initial purchases include all the easy stuff mainly for creature comfort: high end tray, window tinting, canvas seat covers, centre and overhead consoles, UHF. The order comes with bonnet/headlight protectors and windshields. The tray package comes with tool boxes, rear trundle draw, water tank, and side boards.
I want the spare tyres to be fitted to the headboard not the canopy - no heavy lifting each time I want the canopy off and that cantilever issue with the tyres on the back just doesn't make sense. It seems the two major canopy contenders (Norweld and Mitts Alloy) don't do that design for some obscure reason - discussions to continue in that regard.
Reports suggest cabin noise in the new model is reduced, so will see if suppression is necessary - that'll save big kg's alone.
Later fitment: lightweight plastic fantastic bull bar, winch, sliders (maybe), new mirrors, external work lights - undecided on the battery/solar system. Then all the typical stuff: upright fridge, awning, fuel pre-filter. Don't know about a catch can = potential warranty issue. Ditto with any engine remapping, suspension upgrade or track correction.
Not a fan of big tyres - I'm in the narrow are better brigade.
To stay within scope, won't be doing the big canopy fitout thing with steel/timber draws lined with carpet, etc - just plastic boxes and bags where channel bolts are good friends. All my old bushwalking gear is by necessity lightweight, compact, and all season - no heavy/bulky swags, tents, cooking gear. Only conveniences will be a gas stove, back up with metho, shellite and wood.
The idea of two fridges looks an enticing luxury though - a permanent upright fridge and a removable draw freezer for those long trips?
Even with a full supply of water, food, and fuel, that should still put the vehicle well under GVM.
Just like the fulltime job, a project is a project - so got an Excel spreadsheet going to list everything by name and weight ... ignoring the cost, don't want to know!
Albynsw
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I had that arrangement on my old cruiser, I just bought a shorter canopy and mounted it about 300mm back from the headboard so that my spare wheels could fit in there
phs
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How much ?Well, as indicated in a previous post, bit the bullet and ordered a 79 Series GXL V8 during the week - had to reassure them a few times it was for the V8 NOT the 2.8. Couldn't pass up the offer as it was the best received. Also gave them the heads-up on a predelivery non-Toyota tray install.
Hey, it's ONLY money, right?
When is it due? Isn't that a bit of a running gag these days? ETA December-ish ... seems my Avatar is now even more pertinent, wishful thinking.
A dealer called me the other day, had a new v8 Dual CAB GXL 98k on road, only catch have to pickup the next day, asked about ordering one as tomorrow is little too quick, he said 98k and the wait period is TBC
LongRoad2Go
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They do, and they used to sell petrols in Australia. But less than 5% of buyers ordered them even though they were $8-10K cheaper. So Toyota stopped. They may have to bring them back.
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Nickqid, you are ahead of the field
www.carsguide.com.au
Toyota has spoken: Diesel is done for in Australia as new petrol-powered Prado and HiLux loom
Toyota Australia says that the diesel engine will be "eliminated from the Australian market", with the Japanese giant saying the clock is ticking on the powertrain fitted in the HiLux and LandCruiser.
www.carsguide.com.au