MU-X 2013 -> Suspension Info

Ziggy

Well-Known Member
Good to hear from someone who has had experience with the heavier spring Ziggy. What hight did the Dobinson kit lift the rear by? Got me thinking now as I'm booked in at ARB on Tuesday.

45mm rated Mud_x but it looked more. Sorry I didn't measure before and after. The Dobinson front dampers are also underdone on the rebound.
 

Stoneys mux

New Member
Base model LSM-
Custom made side steps/rock sliders
GME UHF
Teconsha P3 brake controller
Hayman Reese Towbar & wiring
Window tints, dash mat, neoprene seat covers & arm rest
MCC steel bull bar
245/75/16 LT Yokohama Geolanders
Bilstein front shocks with HD 40mm king springs (actual 65mm)
30mm Diff drop kit
King spring constant load rear springs (65mm)
Adjustable Koni hard track rear shocks,
OBD2 wifi device.

More to come!
Hey mate nice rig! I'm looking to make some sliders for my ls-t. Can u send us a pic of ya design and how u mounted them? I have only send the tjm ones that tie to the bull bar but I don't like them. Cheers.
 

Tink

Well-Known Member
The bar connecting your steps/sliders to the bullbar is called a brush or scrub bar.

Tink
 

cherny

New Member
Went for TJM as they had good deals last month and I also did an alloy bar at the same time plus they offer 100k/3y warranty.

I did a TJM XGS gold suspension 2 weeks ago and it feels to have settled by now. On the 1st day it was pretty firm, I would even say stiff, but it has softened up ever so slightly and I am starting to finally appreciate it.

They put the standard D-MAX/Colorado shockies/springs at the front, and specialised MU-X ones at the back based on the parts list I have got. I got a 30mm lift front and back, the back sits slightly higher than the front when carrying no weight but you can't really see it unless you start running around with a tape measure, it does seem to perform a bit better when she's loaded up though.

I took it for a bolts check a couple of days ago and had a bit of a chat about this particular product, apparently it's relatively close to the factory setup but obviously meant to resolve the bounciness/boaty feel, reduce body roll and improve weight carrying capacity. If say you put Tough Dog you end up with a much firmer ride etc.

I can see that it will do what it's supposed to. Haven't had a chance to drive an MUX with OME or another product, this was just over a grand at the time I got it and I'd like to thing that all these products around the $1.5k mark when not discounted are relatively similar in many ways. But would be nice to know what ppl think.
 

legolais1

New Member
40MM king spring lift. Constant load rear springs and HD springs up front,

Before

Drivers side Front :490 After :565 = 75mm
Drivers side Rear :530 :595 = 65mm
Passenger side Front :495 :570 = 75mm
Passenger side Rear :530 :595 = 65mm

Bear in mind that the front was measured 'before' with stock suspension and a MCC Falcon02 bulbar, so had already sagged 10-15mm already. Rear isn't loaded at all hence the rear up 25mm higher, will settle when I get a long range tank etc, I do like the height however! (I do have a diff drop kit on the front to help CV angles)

I did the lift myself just ordered the parts from over East,
Aren't you worried about legalities with this lift? Isn't 50mm above standard the max? Insurance won't pay out if something goes wrong and kiss warranty good bye, correct me if I'm wrong, vehicle looks very nice at that height though. I'm looking at getting bilstiens and king springs aswell by my local suspension mob, they said it will lift it up to 2 inch, also did you change or do anything with the bump stops. Cheers.
 

Ziggy

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FWIW I'm on the 3rd setup from Dobinsons. The 45 mm lift and extra weight springs (100-200 kg) were too hard on the rear and their std front dampers poorly controlled on the rebound. Now the wagon has the lift-only springs with the new remote-reservoir dampers at the front. They have adjustable spring preloads and are rebuildable and have coped pretty well with outback roads and a Simpson crossing. The rear spring rate is OK too, running c. 150 kg loads.
 

legolais1

New Member
Got a Bilstein/King Spring Lift kit, around $1700
About 50mm back increase and 90mm front (front bar and winch sagged vehicle prior to suspension change)

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Stoneys mux

New Member
Got a Bilstein/King Spring Lift kit, around $1700
About 50mm back increase and 90mm front (front bar and winch sagged vehicle prior to suspension change)

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That looks good man. Where abouts did you get that lift done. Are you happy with the ride?
 

Sixes

New Member
Got a Bilstein/King Spring Lift kit, around $1700
About 50mm back increase and 90mm front (front bar and winch sagged vehicle prior to suspension change)

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Hi Legolais1, I'm looking to get a suspension upgrade to my LST this month, and was hoping you could share the specifications of your upgrade. It looks just about what I was planning to achieve. Thanks
 

MGMUX

Member
I got a 45mm lift kit from EFS installed today. The thing I'm not so sure about is their measurements came in at 520 before front and rear and then 555 front and rear which is only 35mm.
Is this something to be concerned about as its normal sag. Or should it be exact.
 

peterfermtech

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FWIW I'm on the 3rd setup from Dobinsons. The 45 mm lift and extra weight springs (100-200 kg) were too hard on the rear and their std front dampers poorly controlled on the rebound. Now the wagon has the lift-only springs with the new remote-reservoir dampers at the front. They have adjustable spring preloads and are rebuildable and have coped pretty well with outback roads and a Simpson crossing. The rear spring rate is OK too, running c. 150 kg loads.
G'day Ziggy. Can you give a rundown on how this setup is performing and what springs and so forth you finally settled on. I'm really only looking for about 20mm lift from standard as I already have equal clearance (bigger tyres) to my old D-max and that got me to wherever I wanted.

regards
 

Ziggy

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Sure.
The front and rear springs are Dobinsons for 45mm lift but not extra load. There's a steel bullbar up front (50 kgs?).
I do some towing off- and rough-road of about 1.4 tonnes. Otherwise it's just the wagon pretty lightly loaded.
The new tech front shocks are way better than the std Dobinsons (which IMO were a poor design and poor manufacture - 2 failed early) and I'm pretty happy with the front end now.
The std shocks in the back show their price - really you can't expect much for c. 140 - with harsh high-speed-compression damping. The springs cope well with the varied loads. I had put airbags in them but now hardly adjust them from the minimum 5 psi. When the shocks wear out, and I give them about 30 k kms, I'll consider putting D's remote reservoir units in the back too.
HTH.
 

peterfermtech

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G'day Ziggy. How much lift did you end up getting with your front setup? If you could give measurements to rim or centre that would be great. I have an ECB aluminium bar with winch and synthetic so should be a good guide. How much firmer (harsher) in regards to springs have you found the ride? When you say standard shocks in the rear do you mean original or standard dobinsons? What springs are you running in the rear as my thought are originals with air bags and improved shocks as I find the rear the spongiest part of the ride.

regards
 

Ziggy

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OK, the lift kit I think I mentioned was the Dobinson 45 mm - the 'comfort' kit, not the additional load one. Dobinson say their springs are usually 30% 'stronger' than OEMs but don't publish the spring rates. Certainly they feel firmer. I didn't do a before measurement; after is 52 cm and 58 cm front and back respectively from the hub centre to the wheel arch, unloaded. And yes, when I mentioned the standard shocks it was the basic Dobinsons.
 

peterfermtech

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Thanks Ziggy. That seems to be about the height I'm looking for. At the moment I've got 490mm and 535mm front and back loaded with the winch and bull bar on the front. Got a quote from Dobinsons in Melbourne for MRRs and springs front and rear and air bags installed at $2500. They did seem to understand what I'm looking for and implied that there would be a bit of custom work.

regards
 
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