Mt Terrible Via Newman's track or Mt Terrible track

[Shehan Wilfred]

Hi all,
I am planning to head to Mt terrible soon (one day trip) and I have 2 tracks on my mind, the Mt terrible track and the Newman's track. So when going from Melbourne, Newman's track is the closest but Mt terrible is not too far along the Eildon-Jamiseon rd. Could someone give me advice on the difficulty of Newman's track compared to Mt terrible? I did google a bit but could not really dig up any information about the Newman's track, most of the people who had been to Mt terrible had taken the mt terrible track.
Also would there be snow at this time of the year on the summit of Mt terrible?
Thank you mates

 

[dno67]

Been a few years but from memory, Newman's had some steep red clay in parts.
Mt terrible trk would IMO be the better track, well used and was in good condition.

 

[Shehan Wilfred]

Been a few years but from memory, Newman's had some steep red clay in parts.
Mt terrible trk would IMO be the better track, well used and was in good condition.

Thank for the reply mate. I might change to mt terrible track however, that is about another extra 40 minutes drive hence why I want to know the Newman's track difficulty.

 

[Spooner]

Either track is ok easy , like Deano said Newmans has a softer base and can be slippery in spots if wet .
If you haven't been there before . Id recommend to start at Bald Hill Gap at the Mt Terrible track , because you are starting at a higher altitude , it runs across the ridge line . Has good grip on a rocky base . Offers some stunning views either side in spots of Lake Eildon & Jamieson ,

Really depends on what tyres you are running , you need good grip , highway AT's won't cut it on the slippery bits Normal off road LT AT's are fine , you don't need muddies. But drive with caution and care

 

[discomatt]

Why wouldn't you go out there by yourself with the missus on highway tires, no spare food water or blankets, no recovery points or gear
Ah she will be right

 

[Bomber2012]

Bloke was lucky you guys came along .

 

[Spooner]

Bloke was lucky

He was a complete idiot , driving his mums car . Was roaring around at full noise . Had no idea of where he was , wouldn't be told and wouldn't wait to follow us down safely , so he took off on his own. Got only 300m down Danes Spur tk , off Newman's track .
Only one small tree saved both their lives . Yet they still found the whole thing highly amusing like fun
NFI and it would have been an ugly ending if it wasn't there. It was a straight over the edge a long, long way down .

 

[Shehan Wilfred]

Either track is ok easy , like Deano said Newmans has a softer base and can be slippery in spots if wet .
If you haven't been there before . Id recommend to start at Bald Hill Gap at the Mt Terrible track , because you are starting at a higher altitude , it runs across the ridge line . Has good grip on a rocky base . Offers some stunning views either side in spots of Lake Eildon & Jamieson ,
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Really depends on what tyres you are running , you need good grip , highway AT's won't cut it on the slippery bits Normal off road LT AT's are fine , you don't need muddies. But drive with caution and care
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Thanks mate, thanks for the detailed reply. I read about your trip to Mt terrible on another thread, quite interesting. I will definitely be starting at the Bald Hill Gap as you have recommended, I do want to get some awesome shots. As for the tires, unfortunately, am running Ht's but they are quite new. I have the recovery gear and also a manual hand winch, just-in-case. I am planning to record the trip with a use of an action camera, so hoping to get some good footage.

 

[slivertoy]

Either track is ok easy , like Deano said Newmans has a softer base and can be slippery in spots if wet .
If you haven't been there before . Id recommend to start at Bald Hill Gap at the Mt Terrible track , because you are starting at a higher altitude , it runs across the ridge line . Has good grip on a rocky base . Offers some stunning views either side in spots of Lake Eildon & Jamieson ,
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Really depends on what tyres you are running , you need good grip , highway AT's won't cut it on the slippery bits Normal off road LT AT's are fine , you don't need muddies. But drive with caution and care
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memorable day, that was......freakin' clown, made me late for dinner

 

[darylcheshire]

Why wouldn't you go out there by yourself with the missus on highway tires, no spare food water or blankets, no recovery points or gear
Ah she will be right

I am a newbie with a soft roader Subaru XV my 2018, I haven't done much 4x4 drving. What recovery gear do you recommend I get? A snatch strap?
At this moment I'm looking at dry roads and no snow and no missus and I have stock standard road tyres. So I'm not going to go the whole enchilada yet.

 

[dno67]

I am a newbie with a soft roader Subaru XV my 2018, I haven't done much 4x4 drving. What recovery gear do you recommend I get? A snatch strap?
At this moment I'm looking at dry roads and no snow and no missus and I have stock standard road tyres. So I'm not going to go the whole enchilada yet.

Some decent tyres, a rated recover point a basic recovery kit. Snatch and extension strap and a few suitable shackles and and air compressor would be a good start. Get a few rooftop maps and always remember conditions can and do change quickly in the high country.

 

[Jason Watt]

Worth the preparation and effort.

 

[discomatt]

I am a newbie with a soft roader Subaru XV my 2018, I haven't done much 4x4 drving. What recovery gear do you recommend I get? A snatch strap?
At this moment I'm looking at dry roads and no snow and no missus and I have stock standard road tyres. So I'm not going to go the whole enchilada yet.

Get the stuff dno67 mentioned as a start , check out 4wdtrip.com as well and join a easy trip to learn with a group

 

[dno67]

I'd like to mention when someone suggests going out with a group to learn, that sometimes only means following and watching the vehicle infront of you. If you wish to be schooled in what and how things can or should be done, might be best to do a course or join a club. Most learning is done watching and asking a question if your unsure. I've even waited at a river crossing to watch someone else cross before me, as l was by myself and didn't want to push my luck. Don't be afraid to turn around if your uncomfortable.

 

[Jason Watt]

Most decent 4wheelers will be happy to tow you out of trouble for a beer.

 

[darylcheshire]

Thank you for your information, I did go on the Mt Terrible track last Saturday but only went as far as the Poletti track and took the wrong route and did not go to Mt Terrible
However I did discover the Poletti track is a short cut from the Mansfield Woods Point Rd. So next time I'll go from there.
My main dissappointment was the movie from my dashcam from the angle did not show the true car angle and just seem to be a rough road rather than the scary ups and downs. (nothing to brag about)
My work collegues were unconvinced although I showed the Subaru 4WD Club's movie in FB https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=768079763204950

I have an ODBII device and considered the Garmin VIRB Ultra 30 which is capable of showing ODBII data superimposed on the movie but selecting "Pitch" does not show properly in the app and so I won't consider getting a $500 camera until I work out how to show vehicle angle on the movie.

Better to spend the $500 on rated recovery points and other things that dno67 suggested.

The back page of the Subaru 4WD Club magazine shows what every participant should have with them so I'll discuss it with them when I see them.

 

[dno67]

In car video will never show the angles like a camera filming from the side of a track. The only way to show the true angles while mounted to a vehicle would be by using a gimble.

 

[Swaggie]

In car video will never show the angles like a camera filming from the side of a track. The only way to show the true angles while mounted to a vehicle would be by using a gimble.

Yeah it's a real bugger trying to get this true angles on film....

 

[dno67]

Yeah it's a real bugger trying to get this true angles on film....

Yep, and remembering to keep the camera horizontal while also trying to capture some trees or a person standing virticle in the background to show the difference in ralitive angeles. It's not easy, thats for sure. Especially from only one camera angle, follow me mode with a drone following on a 45° angle would be good.

 

[billolga]

Yeah it's a real bugger trying to get this true angles on film....

It's like showing those that haven't been there how high the Sand Hills get or what really bad Corrugations are like - there unimpressed.