Moonlight Stainless Airbox for 70 Series.

phs

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I did see your pics and that was strange, I am not saying no dust gets past the filter, I have seen fine dust on mine. Rightly or wrongly Toyota maintains a small amount of fine dust is normal. But I do maintain that a large number of dusted engines that you read about on the forums could be from incorrectly installed filters, or as you say mods that cause all kinds of problems with an unknown source. My words were twisted here to say that no dust gets past OE filters. I never said that.

After looking into this in some detail, I am not convinced that any aftermarket mod does anything, the debate as you know on LCOOL is inclusive with many disappointed purchasers of aftermarket boxes reporting no change. Others report less or no dust.

The only one that appears to improve filtering is the Donaldson one. That appears to be the one to buy for peace of mind to me.
Toyota maintaining it is ok is absolutely rubbish,

They are saying particles 20-5 microns are ok that 100%, 10000% is not the case and one of the only manufacturers that has this issue.

5 micron in the automotive / combustion engine industry is regarded as course and damaging

At the end of the day it really boils down to their poor decision on filters.

not across all the other options for aftermarket alternatives but certainly cyclonic pre filters help, Larger surface area via pod or more pleates will be in improvement. 100% the Donaldson seems to be the game changer, super impressive they have incorporated a pressure gauge to see when it requires changing, also impressive test spaces from Jamie ( project 200 )
 

phs

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I am surprised that it is for the 200 series only. Didn’t they know that the 70 series is the target market? 70 series owners are always happy to pay more, regardless if it is, or not, required. We are the cash cows of the automotive world. I have not seen one 70 series that does not have at least one modification…if you see one then take a picture…it is as elusive as the Tassie Tiger.

That Donaldson had me tempted (for pimp bragging rights with some hacking). Then my credit card woke up.
Yes

generally the aftermarket sales is larger for the 200 … & the 200 will see more dusting as it demands more air, more air demand more dust ingress

but it is a vehicle that is no longer in production so yeah bad from a future sales perspective as the 70 lives on, I would guess it is in the pipeline just waiting for cash / interest in the 2”” version
 
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GLee

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Yes

generally the aftermarket sales is larger for the 200 … & the 200 will see more dusting as it demands more air, more air demand more dust ingress

but it is a vehicle that is no longer in production so yeah bad from a future sales perspective as the 70 lives on, I would guess it is in the pipeline just waiting for cash / interest in the 2”” version
I didn’t know the 200 sold more aftermarket accessories. Learn something everyday.

I thought it was only the proverbial 70 that had all the ‘problems’. We are not alone.
 

Rusty Panels

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I realise that this is old news but my personal experience tells me that the dusting is a widespread 200 Series problem.
I bought my 200 with 125k on the clock and from what I can tell by the body condition and spending considerable time underneath and under the bonnet etc it has seen very little off road action during it's life. It has been regularly serviced if the logbook is correct and runs like a clock. I removed the intake hose from the airbox and inspected everything when I first bought the car as I was aware of dusting reports on 200's. The air box, MAF sensor and intake tubes were spotless and have remained that way.
My wife and I planned a couple of weeks away with the van so I gave the car a service and changed all filters prior to our trip. I used genuine parts which were actually cheaper (surprise, surprise!).
We spent over a week in the State forests around Tumbarumba and explored quite a few different tracks in the area. We probably did about 200 to 300 k's on dirt in total and wouldn't have passed any more than half a dozen vehicles during that time. I fitted a Safari Armax to the car when I first bought it, so it wasn't drawing air from under the guard and the traffic we encountered was all oncoming so dust shouldn't have been an issue.
When I got home I gave the car a clean and checked the air filter. I was disappointed to see that there was dust on the engine side of the element. Fortunately there was no sign of dust in the outlet tube, it appeared to be only a tiny amount on the top side of the housing.
I know there was no issue with dust prior to our trip and the element was fitted correctly. What this told me was that the factory air-box is not satisfactory and that eventually they will let you down.
I have since purchased and fitted a Donaldson Powercore. They're not cheap but neither is a replacement engine.
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Triton14

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Yes I know you can clean and re-oil them but I would rather just replace them with a new pre oiled one so you know they are in their best working order

Being able to clean & reuse it means you dont necessarily need to carry a spare!

When I got home I gave the car a clean and checked the air filter. I was disappointed to see that there was dust on the engine side of the element.
Sounds like a great improvement over the OEM supplied for the 200!

@red hilux was all over it over 12 moths ago in post #14 which is why this forum is so good :)

Man you could eat off that engine :) :cool:
 

Triton14

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There's never a shortage of fresh grasshoppers and bugs on top of the intercooler if you're desperate for a snack! :p
While I am a chef & I need to be open to flavour & textural experimentation...................................I would prefer not to thanks.........:)
 
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