Lockdown Protests

[Kippie]

'Incredibly caring wife and mother': Tributes flow for Melbourne nurse who died from COVID-19

Premier Daniel Andrews has thanked a Melbourne nurse who died of COVID-19 for her years of service to Victorians.

www.sbs.com.au

I didn't ask for an example of a vaccinated person dying. I asked for the death rate and compare those.

 

[Kippie]

The funny thing is all cases are coming from vaccinated...no reported cases coming from unvaccinated freedom rallies.

Would you expect the antivaxers to co-operate with the tracers?

 

[discomatt]

Would you expect the antivaxers to co-operate with the tracers?

If there was a massive amount of cases among the unvaccinated the health authorities would be all over it regardless of whether the filthy ones admitted to going to a rally and it would be in every news flash on every bit of main stream media. But strangely enough its not.
Even the pro lock down and pro mandate crowd here would have to see that such a occurrence would fit right into the pro vaccine agenda and therefore be splashed everywhere to continue the promotion of getting the last remaining over the line but that is simply not happening.
They have even stopped reporting how many vaccinated verses un vaccinated are ending up in hospital, that speaks volumes to anyone who can look at history and think about how the modern media and government works
Talk about clutching at straws

 

[muffin man]

Exactly...if the MSM could conjure up any kind of twisted slant against the unvaccinated and cases they would.

 

[Kippie]

Exactly...if the MSM could conjure up any kind of twisted slant against the unvaccinated and cases they would.

Since you don't want to look it up, here it is. Tell us what your conclusion is.

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

To understand how the pandemic is evolving, it’s crucial to know how death rates from COVID-19 are affected by vaccination status.

ourworldindata.org

 

[Kippie]

If there was a massive amount of cases among the unvaccinated the health authorities would be all over it regardless of whether the filthy ones admitted to going to a rally and it would be in every news flash on every bit of main stream media. But strangely enough its not.
Even the pro lock down and pro mandate crowd here would have to see that such a occurrence would fit right into the pro vaccine agenda and therefore be splashed everywhere to continue the promotion of getting the last remaining over the line but that is simply not happening.
They have even stopped reporting how many vaccinated verses un vaccinated are ending up in hospital, that speaks volumes to anyone who can look at history and think about how the modern media and government works
Talk about clutching at straws

Why would the pro lockdown and pro vaccine crowd bother with that? It's a worn out argument. All the data show the facts.

 

[peterfermtech]

If there was a massive amount of cases among the unvaccinated the health authorities would be all over it regardless of whether the filthy ones admitted to going to a rally and it would be in every news flash on every bit of main stream media. But strangely enough its not.
Even the pro lock down and pro mandate crowd here would have to see that such a occurrence would fit right into the pro vaccine agenda and therefore be splashed everywhere to continue the promotion of getting the last remaining over the line but that is simply not happening.
They have even stopped reporting how many vaccinated verses un vaccinated are ending up in hospital, that speaks volumes to anyone who can look at history and think about how the modern media and government works
Talk about clutching at straws

Maybe if your understanding of maths was a little better.

Now if we had a jar with 1000 M&Ms
900 are yellow and 100 are blue (approx number of eligible vaccinated to unvaccinated)
the yellow ones have a protective coating
100 get wet with 40 yellow (40%) and 60 blue(60%) turning green (approx number in hospital of vaccinated to unvaccinated)
so 40/900 yellow have turned green whilst 60/100 blue have turned green
or 4.4% yellow turn green compared to 60% for blue
or a factor of 14 times.

 

[drmahodi]

And another pops up.

By "another" you mean someone who thinks ALL Australians should have access to adequate health care right?

 

[Albynsw]

Maybe if your understanding of maths was a little better.

Now if we had a jar with 1000 M&Ms
900 are yellow and 100 are blue (approx number of eligible vaccinated to unvaccinated)
the yellow ones have a protective coating
100 get wet with 40 yellow (40%) and 60 blue(60%) turning green (approx number in hospital of vaccinated to unvaccinated)
so 40/900 yellow have turned green whilst 60/100 blue have turned green
or 4.4% yellow turn green compared to 60% for blue
or a factor of 14 times.

This has been the issue all along, people can’t or refuse to understand maths and statistics and just cherry pick bits and pieces to substantiate their view.
Your talking M&M’s and someone will want to add a jellybean into the conversation and the basic fundamentals of the situation are lost

 

[mikehzz]

This has been the issue all along, people can’t or refuse to understand maths and statistics and just cherry pick bits and pieces to substantiate their view.
Your talking M&M’s and someone will want to add a jellybean into the conversation and the basic fundamentals of the situation are lost

For a start, this should be in the lollies thread.

 

[rogerazz]

Seeing this thread is something/sometimes, along the lines of lockdown, here is some input on current situation regarding lockouts.
Many of my family including myself are now experiencing lockout of the unvaccinated in Melbourne.
Especially food courts in major shopping centres, restaurants, pubs, takeaways, even a Telstra shop yesterday. etc.etc.
Going into supermarkets seems to be a free for all so not all QR coding 100%.
However generally there is a fair bit of checking, to the point where I bought a new phone for the missus and download services app. as well as covid vac cert. for her.
A pub a couple of suburbs away has been fined twice, somewhere in the thousands of dollars, so message is getting out there especially to the eateries, so many are now checking carefully.
Although kids 5-12 years old are not being mandated it appears that many will comply.
So the guts of it is, stand up to the plate, get vaccinated, get out and do what you want to do and live life again.
Even the media is getting tired of reporting the people who are lagging behind and those people will soon be forgotten.
That means this thread will fade away just like them. .

 

[Kippie]

Seeing this thread is something/sometimes, along the lines of lockdown, here is some input on current situation regarding lockouts.
Many of my family including myself are now experiencing lockout of the unvaccinated in Melbourne.
Especially food courts in major shopping centres, restaurants, pubs, takeaways, even a Telstra shop yesterday. etc.etc.
Going into supermarkets seems to be a free for all so not all QR coding 100%.
However generally there is a fair bit of checking, to the point where I bought a new phone for the missus and download services app. as well as covid vac cert. for her.
A pub a couple of suburbs away has been fined twice, somewhere in the thousands of dollars, so message is getting out there especially to the eateries, so many are now checking carefully.
Although kids 5-12 years old are not being mandated it appears that many will comply.
So the guts of it is, stand up to the plate, get vaccinated, get out and do what you want to do and live life again.
Even the media is getting tired of reporting the people who are lagging behind and those people will soon be forgotten.
That means this thread will fade away just like them. .

I have the same experience. Most shops other than the supermarket ask you for your certificate.

 

[Toyasaurus]

You should come down to my local woolies,
No one checks anything, some people don`t even have masks on.

 

[rogerazz]

You should come down to my local woolies,
No one checks anything, some people don`t even have masks on.

Thanks , That's great news for all the non vaxers.
They will be able to plan a trip, a family gathering and play a bit of sport at your local Woolies.
Can you pass the word around, put signs around the suburb, local paper, etc. so that the unvaccinated not only get a feed but have a good life and they won't feel like lepers anymore. .

 

[Corndoggy]

Supermarkets cannot stop or refuse entry to anyone, vaxed or unvaxed. It is essential shopping, same at the chemists I use, though I have been asked for proof at another I went to. They should still be checking on masks but some people cannot and will not be told to use a mask in a public area. In a few trips to Bunnings I've seen a few big guys, no masks, not checked in, walk in straight past the guy checking, ignoring the guy and his request, off into the store, no ones stopping me attitude. Wonder if they have a "I'm to big and tough to catch covid" attitude.

 

[Kippie]

Exactly...if the MSM could conjure up any kind of twisted slant against the unvaccinated and cases they would.

Is this the sort of twisted slant you're looking for?

Victoria's COVID-19 hospitalisations have been stable. Is that a problem?

The number of COVID-19 patients has been sitting at about 300 for the past few weeks, but intensive care clinicians aren't expecting it to drop by much as the pandemic enters its third year.

www.abc.net.au

I quote:

"Ninety-four per cent of intensive care patients with COVID are not double vaxxed," Professor Cooper said.

"So intensive care COVID is almost entirely a disease of the non-vaxxed or inadequately vaxxed."

Professor Cooper said many of the remaining patients who were double-vaccinated had underlying complications including immunosuppression, or had only recently received their second dose and were yet to benefit from the full immune response it triggered.

He said many of his intensive care colleagues had shared the by-now familiar accounts of those previously adamant about their rejection of vaccines pleading to be given one at the point of intubation.

"And the doctors just have to say, it's too late, you can't have it," he said.

Professor Bellomo said it was "very upsetting" to see unvaccinated patients dying in ICU, when "two little mosquito bites" of vaccination shots could have prevented it.

 

[boobook]

The funny thing is all cases are coming from vaccinated...no reported cases coming from unvaccinated freedom rallies.

Ah actually there are.

 

[boobook]

Exactly...if the MSM could conjure up any kind of twisted slant against the unvaccinated and cases they would.

The good ol MSM. One unified group of hundreds of thousands of media outlets. From the ABC to Murdoch, from nne, to 7 to the Singapore straits times to the BBC to the China daily.

All unified with a single set of lies about one topic, and no others. The stupidity of antivaxxers.

Maybe it's just a fact.

 

[muffin man]

Good on ya Aussie Cossack....have an awesome evening.

 

[peterfermtech]

Prof. Peter Doherty


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Tattoo ink injected into the arm takes can take exactly the same road to lymph nodes in the armpit as any vaccine. What's in tattoo ink? There are no clinical trials! The price of ‘freedom’: How anti-lockdown protest leaders make money from the movement

The price of ‘freedom’: How anti-lockdown protest leaders make money from the movement

You can buy caps and T-shirts, pseudo-medical COVID treatments, even social media sites and legal advice – it’s all part of the deal when you are marching for freedom.

www.theage.com.au