Lockdown Protests

Bomber2012

Well-Known Member
There were lockdown protests all over the country today , I have been against these types of protests during a pandemic and thought there mainly attended by trouble makers .
After watching some footage of the protesters today I am starting to see it a bit differently, for instance if it’s a “BLM” protest that’s fine, you are free to get tens of thousands of protesters together and do what you want.
In Victoria we are being lied to from a totally incompetent government that has no plan/idea what to do and people have had enough , it will be interesting to see what happens once we hit the 80% vaxxed mark.
I can see the shit hitting the fan big time if Dan doesn’t allow people to go about their business as normal once this milestone is reached.

This is no way to live .
 

lars cordes

Well-Known Member
think people have had a gutfull of the incompetence eg re quarantine, the lack of vaccines when we are getting hammered to get jabbed etc & the inconsistencies eg how BLM protests are OK or how scomo can see his kids for fathers day .... ive been fortunate to still work through it all, talking to many people esp young blokes, they just dont trust the government anymore & lots of people are now ignoring or flouting restrictions
 

Triton14

Well-Known Member
If your not in favor of your current state government & their decision making then you have the opportunity to vote them out.
People have very short memories & when it comes election time, Victorian state elections are to be held by November 2022 so I'd imagine if people are upset by their governance then that's the opportunity to out them, see what happens & who remembers?

Both Queensland & WA held elections mid pandemic & the current governments had resounding victories, I would hope all those Qldr's who couldn't get home to visit dying family members & let all the footballers/wives in remember that when their turn to vote comes around.
And that Mark twit would like to see WA set back into the stone age if he could & someone should tell him he's dreaming if he thinks he will keep Delta out of his state.

As for Glady's, again same deal, I hope people remember that she did not lock down Sydney quick enough knowing that this was Delta & look at what happened!

They are all as bad as each other so throw a dart!

I guess we could go all Donald Trump supporter & storm the Capital building :p
 

mikehzz

Well-Known Member
The Victorian problem has been caused by the dickheads we have running here NSW. Therefore in the interests of interstate rivalry, I nominate the NSW government as the bigger bunch of incompetent, corrupt numb skulls. At a Federal level, what about this put down from a respected medical professional -

 

Lost1?

Well-Known Member
We have all had enough of lockdown 6.0 or whatever we are up to in VIC. But the rent a crowd dickheads that cause trouble at these rallies are muppets who deserve whatever they get.

As a democratic country we have the luxury of being able to protest. Ask people from other countries what happens to people who protest their Govt of the day if they managed to live and tell the tale.

Those at the extreme right or left of these groups in Australia are not there to voice their concerns about societies wrongs. They are grubs hiding behind a cause to make trouble.
 

Lost1?

Well-Known Member
The Victorian problem has been caused by the dickheads we have running here NSW. Therefore in the interests of interstate rivalry, I nominate the NSW government as the bigger bunch of incompetent, corrupt numb skulls. At a Federal level, what about this put down from a respected medical professional -

Jeez Mike. That race would be photo finish. Might take the judges a few months to decide the winner too.
 

phs

Well-Known Member
There were lockdown protests all over the country today , I have been against these types of protests during a pandemic and thought there mainly attended by trouble makers .
After watching some footage of the protesters today I am starting to see it a bit differently, for instance if it’s a “BLM” protest that’s fine, you are free to get tens of thousands of protesters together and do what you want.
In Victoria we are being lied to from a totally incompetent government that has no plan/idea what to do and people have had enough , it will be interesting to see what happens once we hit the 80% vaxxed mark.
I can see the shit hitting the fan big time if Dan doesn’t allow people to go about their business as normal once this milestone is reached.

This is no way to live .
Not sure where you are bomber but this latest lockdown is business as usual except the hospitality sector

as far as trades go they are working, traffic at 530am is busy as ever

Driving by the local shops when the sun is out people everywhere

this last lockdown has been lax if you ask me not saying it’s right but just saying most people are doing what they want anyway
 

Bomber2012

Well-Known Member
Not sure where you are bomber but this latest lockdown is business as usual except the hospitality sector

as far as trades go they are working, traffic at 530am is busy as ever

Driving by the local shops when the sun is out people everywhere

this last lockdown has been lax if you ask me not saying it’s right but just saying most people are doing what they want anyway
I’m one of the lucky ones who can work
But ,
Not being able to travel more than 5k from home,
Having a 9pm curfew ,
Only being allowed outside for 2hrs a day,
Local businesses folding everyday, hard working people losing all they have worked for and left destitute.
Is not “business as usual “ for me .

If it gets to the stage that there are full blown riots our leaders have no one to blame but themselves.
 

Triton14

Well-Known Member
Best thing people can do is get vaccinated asap.

If we get to 80% & they still hold snap lockdowns then I will gladly join the people on the streets myself for a peaceful protest because we have to just start to live with this thing.

If you don't want to get vaccinated then you might be part of the 20% that won't have a life.
 

phs

Well-Known Member
But ,
Not being able to travel more than 5k from home,
Having a 9pm curfew ,
Only being allowed outside for 2hrs a day,
Local businesses folding everyday, hard working people losing all they have worked for and left destitute.
Is not “business as usual “ for me .

If it gets to the stage that there are full blown riots our leaders have no one to blame but themselves.
i don’t think many people are following those rules except maybe the 9pm curfew.
 

Albynsw

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Best thing people can do is get vaccinated asap.

If we get to 80% & they still hold snap lockdowns then I will gladly join the people on the streets myself for a peaceful protest because we have to just start to live with this thing.

If you don't want to get vaccinated then you might be part of the 20% that won't have a life.

We all know this is the way forward, get the jab rate up and then you have to let the virus take its course in the community as we open up. I hear lots of whinging about lockdowns and vaccination but I have yet to hear a plan B from anyone.
Get the jab and let’s get on with it otherwise we will be in this limbo situation indefinitely
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
I hear lots of whinging about lockdowns and vaccination but I have yet to hear a plan B from anyone.
Yes you have as has everyone but you choose not to listen to anything other than main stream media and government BS.
The video above is just another example of the manipulation and lies that many try to point out but it all gets put into the crazy anti vax and conspiracy theory bag then all evidence and expert opinion is removed from the internet.
Rapid testing , air testing and filtering, purpose built hospitals and quarantine. All effective all allow the old society to still function and all considerably cheaper than the current coarse of action.
Do people really think things will ever go back to "normal"?
Wake up, it willl not and I hope people do attend massive protests atracting millions so we don't become a massively controlled police state
 

Albynsw

Well-Known Member
Come on then Matt outline a Plan B for me.
I am very open to a viable alternative but I have yet to hear one from anyone anywhere. You just constantly get the complaining and the odd little alternative like air testing etc etc but there is no other pieces to the puzzle, they are all really just dancing around the vaccine option.
 

dirvine

Well-Known Member
The reason why I support the protests is the hipocracy of the Vic Police and the Victorian Government. Just on Friday the CFMEU, held a protest about their smoko's not being allowed inside. In the morning smoko time they closed down intersections, did not practice social distancing and were in gatherings sizes not approved by the CHO Sutton. What did the police do? Nothing. Said there protest was "different" to the one planned for Saturday. The CFMEU advisied that they would do the same thing again for the afternoon smoko. What did the police do? Formed a line across the streets but allowed the "protesters" to have their time and then they dispursed. Now contrast that with what happened in Richmond on Saturday. Heavily armed Police, Battons, Spray, Shields Horses etc etc, and just insighted the crowd trying to move them on, pushing or shoving etc or arresting anybody. If they just stayed on the side to protect property the crowd would have in the end had their say and left. So its OK to protest if you are a member of a Union, but the rest of the population cannot. If there was consistency then fine but there isn't. Roll on November 2022 and hopefully a Royal Commission to finally get to the bottom of this whole mess and charge the people responsible.
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
I also agree that there is a requirement for all those who are at risk, feel they are at risk or just plain want to to get the vaccine.
What I don't agree with is mandated and forced vaccination, every single person on the planet should have total freedom of choice when it comes to what they put into or choose not to put into their body.
And don't for one minute pretend that with the current rules set out by government the average person has a choice
 

Albynsw

Well-Known Member
The reason why I support the protests is the hipocracy of the Vic Police and the Victorian Government. Just on Friday the CFMEU, held a protest about their smoko's not being allowed inside. In the morning smoko time they closed down intersections, did not practice social distancing and were in gatherings sizes not approved by the CHO Sutton. What did the police do? Nothing. Said there protest was "different" to the one planned for Saturday. The CFMEU advisied that they would do the same thing again for the afternoon smoko. What did the police do? Formed a line across the streets but allowed the "protesters" to have their time and then they dispursed. Now contrast that with what happened in Richmond on Saturday. Heavily armed Police, Battons, Spray, Shields Horses etc etc, and just insighted the crowd trying to move them on, pushing or shoving etc or arresting anybody. If they just stayed on the side to protect property the crowd would have in the end had their say and left. So its OK to protest if you are a member of a Union, but the rest of the population cannot. If there was consistency then fine but there isn't. Roll on November 2022 and hopefully a Royal Commission to finally get to the bottom of this whole mess and charge the people responsible.

Yes they did the same with BLM protest. They should be consistent with their stance on protesting regardless of what they are protesting about. Obviously they are concerned about political backlash
 

phs

Well-Known Member
What’s the big deal about getting the jab?
We have all had plenty of vaxs over the years,

half the antivaxers are happy to go out Saturday night and take unknown substances made in a dingy shed somewhere yet feel this covid jab increases 5G reception for the government to track you
 

rogerazz

4x4 Earth Contributer
The reason why I support the protests is the hipocracy of the Vic Police and the Victorian Government. Just on Friday the CFMEU, held a protest about their smoko's not being allowed inside. In the morning smoko time they closed down intersections, did not practice social distancing and were in gatherings sizes not approved by the CHO Sutton. What did the police do? Nothing. Said there protest was "different" to the one planned for Saturday. The CFMEU advisied that they would do the same thing again for the afternoon smoko. What did the police do? Formed a line across the streets but allowed the "protesters" to have their time and then they dispursed. Now contrast that with what happened in Richmond on Saturday. Heavily armed Police, Battons, Spray, Shields Horses etc etc, and just insighted the crowd trying to move them on, pushing or shoving etc or arresting anybody. If they just stayed on the side to protect property the crowd would have in the end had their say and left. So its OK to protest if you are a member of a Union, but the rest of the population cannot. If there was consistency then fine but there isn't. Roll on November 2022 and hopefully a Royal Commission to finally get to the bottom of this whole mess and charge the people responsible.
Yesterday's crowd were not protesting for lunch rooms , they were looking for a fight and got one.
Easy to sort the building site blokes. Let them have their little lunch day, no fight, then close the building sites. Once it hits their pocket they might realize how lucky they were. Not like many who have lost their jobs and businesses.
 

dirvine

Well-Known Member
Yesterday's crowd were not protesting for lunch rooms , they were looking for a fight and got one.
Easy to sort the building site blokes. Let them have their little lunch day, no fight, then close the building sites. Once it hits their pocket they might realize how lucky they were. Not like many who have lost their jobs and businesses.
Rogerrazz, I dont care if they were looking for a fight or not, or a lunch room taken aweasy. Under the current lockdown rules neither protest should have been tolerated. The Police should have made arrests at both demonstrations. However one was ignored and the other actively pursued. Hence my comments. Laws and application of laws not consistently applied. I guess have a look at this and tell me that that sort of violence by police is acceptable
 

discomatt

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That is just another of many that will be removed so the public cant see the facts
Serve and protect.....
 
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