Land Rover defender vs Ineos Grenadier New 4WDs for Australia
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Albynsw
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I assume you are talking about the aftermarket conversions some people have done. From what I have heard those that have done it are happy with them.
Not keen on anything like that, especially at 20k. I would just weigh up the options if they offered them factory but not a deal breaker either way for me
CTL
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Burrrrrton
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As for me, both cars are good. Of course, the very essence is to discuss, find flaws, emphasize advantages. But as for the purchase or some kind of final result - for me, both are about equally good.
discomatt
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Because they are no longer a off road 4wd manufacturer, they are a luxury car manufacturer that can be taken off road, very different entities
Albynsw
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I don’t think the LR marketing department got that memo
Toyasaurus
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I just had a look at the disco and what you get with the standard one.
20" wheels would be a deal breaker from the start.
20" wheels would be a deal breaker from the start.
LongRoad2Go
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Thanks for posting the video.
Like many, the idea of the vehicle is welcomed and hopefully it will be the 'real deal', but that video is hardly an impressive marketing tool: driving over bowling green quality pastures, along well maintained gravel roads … nothing a Toyota Camry couldn’t handle. Then having the ‘invited guests’ sit around a fire (with that huge marque in the background), talking like it was a ‘big day’ out.
I realise this is still a prototype, and it will be interesting to see how far they REALLY push the vehicle in Africa and Australia. The wheel travel and clearance seems rather limited – see how she goes with its maximum payload. Also, when the driver was talking about the gearing system, shit, I hope the thing doesn’t need a telephone book sized manual to understand how it works/to fit it! And those console switches ... there were less switches on the Space Shuttle! We'll see how they work after 500km of dusty corrugations and deep river crossings.
Ineos needs to stop screwing around with the soft nonsense and show some fully ladened, heavy duty 4WDing.
Like many, the idea of the vehicle is welcomed and hopefully it will be the 'real deal', but that video is hardly an impressive marketing tool: driving over bowling green quality pastures, along well maintained gravel roads … nothing a Toyota Camry couldn’t handle. Then having the ‘invited guests’ sit around a fire (with that huge marque in the background), talking like it was a ‘big day’ out.
I realise this is still a prototype, and it will be interesting to see how far they REALLY push the vehicle in Africa and Australia. The wheel travel and clearance seems rather limited – see how she goes with its maximum payload. Also, when the driver was talking about the gearing system, shit, I hope the thing doesn’t need a telephone book sized manual to understand how it works/to fit it! And those console switches ... there were less switches on the Space Shuttle! We'll see how they work after 500km of dusty corrugations and deep river crossings.
Ineos needs to stop screwing around with the soft nonsense and show some fully ladened, heavy duty 4WDing.
Toyasaurus
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Hopefully they will get to it.
After all one must learn to crawl and walk before one can run.
I think it`s more important they get it right from the start, that way we will get a truck that works.
I do wonder what the pricing will be?
After all one must learn to crawl and walk before one can run.
I think it`s more important they get it right from the start, that way we will get a truck that works.
I do wonder what the pricing will be?
Albynsw
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A low production specialised vehicle, can’t imagine it will be cheap. If it ticks all the boxes with accessories I can’t see it being under 100k
Will be interesting to see how it develops
linuxfan66
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what little have seen the new defender aint bad as a offroader if your not the full on rock crawling type and their offroad mode terrain system is a really good system from all who have used it. its price and being a rough early in run models hurt it badly. Im saying this and DO NOT LIKE JLR.
dirvine
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Stupid arm chair critic with no real seat of the pants test, viewing or touching. The guys a "tool" of the 1st order.
linuxfan66
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he has the experience history and tools his opinions should be at least considered. i would consider him to be an expert opinion.
linuxfan66
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also known for being very transparent about his opinions if he expresses them. doesnt hide involvement of sponsors either