Is it just my thoughts, or are 4wders their own worst enemies?

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Bainsy

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allanmac said:
By the same token, still cannot understand why so many do not engage 4wd & feel the need to drive as long as they can in 2wd & only engage 4wd when they have no other option...:confused: To me there is only one reason & the reason ' to look after the drivetrain' etc is not it. Just like saying; "I wont use a certain part of my anatomy as I dont want it to wear out"....;) Yes I know females may use that excuse, but dont think us males do...:)
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im just wondering if anyone has ever heard of driveline binding? i used to drive in 4wd (75 series) as soon as i hit the dirt and unis would chew out in no time (especialy the double cardan in the front which aint cheap to replace) i thaught it was a greasing issue (greased before each trip) but later on i simply moved the stick out of 4wd into 2wd when its not needed and it has reduced the wear greatly. i see no need to be in 4wd on a flat road, or slight incline. iv also noticed some tracks are very grippy and i find it difficult to steer in my old cruiser (yep its older then me!) i dont do it to try and see how far ill go, besides, i have nothing to prove :D

thats my reason anyway... and no one can say otherwise :rolleyes:

allanmac said:
And just to make me more frustrated; driving home along the Monash Fwy this afternoon & noticed a largish vehicle approaching at a fair rate of knots, even though it was raining. Moved over into the left lane & then after passing me, it proceeded to try to 'climb in the boot' of the car in front. As it was having no success in getting the car to oblige, it then decided that the flashing of the driving lights might have the desired effect...:(

No need to guess what sort of vehicle...:rolleyes:
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Dont worry i get it all the time around home. they are too busy cutting laps and tailgating cars instead of experiencing the great landscapes we have just 1/2 hour up the road. beats me :confused: theres no reason for that kind of behavior
 
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Bainsy

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WILDTI said:
Quote By allanmac - Just like saying; "I wont use a certain part of my anatomy as I dont want it to wear out"....;) Yes I know females may use that excuse, but dont think us males do...:)



What do you mean by this???????
This thread has gone so off track, please keep on the subject, there is no need to make comments like the above, if you need to rant make them in the 'What cheeses me off" thread
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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: SOMEONE HAS MESSED WITH THE WRONG FEMALE!!!!
 
tappets

tappets

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bainsy said:
im just wondering if anyone has ever heard of driveline binding? i used to drive in 4wd (75 series) as soon as i hit the dirt and unis would chew out in no time (especialy the double cardan in the front which aint cheap to replace) i thaught it was a greasing issue (greased before each trip) but later on i simply moved the stick out of 4wd into 2wd when its not needed and it has reduced the wear greatly. i see no need to be in 4wd on a flat road, or slight incline. iv also noticed some tracks are very grippy and i find it difficult to steer in my old cruiser (yep its older then me!) i dont do it to try and see how far ill go, besides, i have nothing to prove :D

thats my reason anyway... and no one can say otherwise :rolleyes:
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not quite sure but I only really engae when i need to as well - if you have a 4x4 that is set up well and thought out it does make life easier all 4x4s are different
 
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Bainsy

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tappets said:
not quite sure but I only really engae when i need to as well - if you have a 4x4 that is set up well and thought out it does make life easier all 4x4s are different
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What are you not quite sure about tappets? yep i have to agree all 4x4s are different, mine is ;)
 
tappets

tappets

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bainsy yours is the most standard farm ute ive ever seen - they must just do things different up your way lol
 
allanmac

allanmac

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bainsy said:
im just wondering if anyone has ever heard of driveline binding? i used to drive in 4wd (75 series) as soon as i hit the dirt and unis would chew out in no time (especialy the double cardan in the front which aint cheap to replace) i thaught it was a greasing issue (greased before each trip) but later on i simply moved the stick out of 4wd into 2wd when its not needed and it has reduced the wear greatly. i see no need to be in 4wd on a flat road, or slight incline. iv also noticed some tracks are very grippy and i find it difficult to steer in my old cruiser (yep its older then me!) i dont do it to try and see how far ill go, besides, i have nothing to prove :D

thats my reason anyway... and no one can say otherwise :rolleyes:

Dont worry i get it all the time around home. they are too busy cutting laps and tailgating cars instead of experiencing the great landscapes we have just 1/2 hour up the road. beats me :confused: theres no reason for that kind of behavior
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Fair point Bainsy...:)

As I said earlier, this forum doesnt have the 'prove anything' mentality etc etc & is interesting reading the comments in regard to 2wd/4wd etc etc. As you & others have said, not all 4wds are the same & behave differently, but the 'engaging 4wd' early was something that was preached to me from a very young age; (before electricity & running water) & is something I do everytime I hit the gravel.


Couldnt agree more with your last comment too. We have all experienced the 'tailgaters' etc, whether it be a normal car or a 4wd. We tend to say 'dipstick/idiot' etc when it is a 'normal' type car but when it is a 4wd doing exactly the same thing; the 'john citizen' tends to say; "Typical 4wder" because the 4wd stands out so much more. The thing is trying to get the message through to those 4wders who are yet to realise this.
 
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Pickle

Pickle

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allanmac said:
Fair point Bainsy...:)

As I said earlier, this forum doesnt have the 'prove anything' mentality etc etc & is interesting reading the comments in regard to 2wd/4wd etc etc. As you & others have said, not all 4wds are the same & behave differently, but the 'engaging 4wd' early was something that was preached to me from a very young age; (before electricity & running water) & is something I do everytime I hit the gravel.


Couldnt agree more with your last comment too. We have all experienced the 'tailgaters' etc, whether it be a normal car or a 4wd. We tend to say 'dipstick/idiot' etc when it is a 'normal' type car but when it is a 4wd doing exactly the same thing; the 'john citizen' tends to say; "Typical 4wder" because the 4wd stands out so much more. The thing is trying to get the message through to those 4wders who are yet to realise this.
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Another one here to get into 4wd Hi once the dirt starts. Pajero's and Challengers tend to get "tailey" in 2wd on corrugations and potholes on fast dirt tracks. I think it is just a good habit to get into ....for your own safety as well!
Dave
 
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Bainsy

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Pickle said:
Another one here to get into 4wd Hi once the dirt starts. Pajero's and Challengers tend to get "tailey" in 2wd on corrugations and potholes on fast dirt tracks. I think it is just a good habit to get into ....for your own safety as well!
Dave
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Iv been following davidman in his pajero on forrest road in bunyip (main dirt road) and on one of the long sweepers, the back end stepped out sideways on loose gravel at cruising speed :eek: yet the rest of us cornered it easily (75 cruiser, couple of patrols and a disco). It all depends on your 4wd, how its setup and how well you drive to the conditions.

By the way, davidman can drive!
 
WILDTI

WILDTI

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I don't think you are a pig at, adding the salt will make it hurt that little bit more
 
Pure Yobbo

Pure Yobbo

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allanmac said:
And just to make me more frustrated; driving home along the Monash Fwy this afternoon & noticed a largish vehicle approaching at a fair rate of knots, even though it was raining. Moved over into the left lane & then after passing me, it proceeded to try to 'climb in the boot' of the car in front. As it was having no success in getting the car to oblige, it then decided that the flashing of the driving lights might have the desired effect...:(

No need to guess what sort of vehicle...:rolleyes:
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Does anyone know the road rules concerning this???? Reading the comment above I think not! If a car approaches you from behind and is flashing it's lights you have to let the car past - what if the car or 4x4 is trying to reach an emergancy???

Once again as a society we tar everyone with the one brush and don't look past our own narrow minded idea's before we comment.
 
WILDTI

WILDTI

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Pure Yobbo said:
Does anyone know the road rules concerning this???? Reading the comment above I think not! If a car approaches you from behind and is flashing it's lights you have to let the car past - what if the car or 4x4 is trying to reach an emergancy???

Once again as a society we tar everyone with the one brush and don't look past our own narrow minded idea's before we comment.
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Isn't the road rule Keep left unless overtaking!!!!!!
 
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