Interesting Utube vids - just for entertainment, of course!

Toyasaurus

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Here is why we shouldn`t trust any politician.
Wasting 12b and counting on a project that probably won`t work.


Quick and dirty calc`s,
Spend 20k on each house for solar and batteries,
Around 600,000 homes.

Nearly 9 million tonnes of carbon saved each year.
 

LongRoad2Go

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The project in itself 'seemed'^ sound, but political expediency screwed the pooch. The pollies wanted it for publicity purposes so it needed to be shovel ready, for major projects like that it equals significant corner cutting because it usually takes years for the ground work to be done, concepts to be tested, and more data to be collected = substantial geotech in this case; and, all under strict environmental conditions because it's in a National Park with Heritage listings.

^ = don't know if they've considered the long term consequences of reduced snowfall due to climate changes = obviously, no water and the entire scheme fails.

It's dubious that it is a so-called 'Nation Building' project - just an add-on to the existing scheme really, which also includes updating turbines elsewhere to significantly increase power output - but retrofitting existing infrastructure isn't media worthy for greedy pollies. A true 'Nation Building' project overlaps many Government election cycles, and is in the long term public interest. This project was set to fail because the Government wanted it all done while they were in power so they could use it as an advertising campaign for reelection.
 

LongRoad2Go

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There seems to be very few infrastructure projects that take longer than 4 years these days. Pollies don't want the opposition getting any credit for their ideas.
That's only when a project becomes public facing i.e. affecting travel times, speed limits, detours, noise, etc. A large proportion of project work is done in offices and in the field collecting data outside of public view, though the public may occasionally see workers closing down access for short periods, usually outside of peak periods, for unknown reasons - that's either data collection or preliminary/ancillary support works. Another example is property acquisition - without legal impediments, it can take upwards of 18 months to finalise, so that's only obvious when demolition starts, a chain wire fence installed, and the land sits idle for ages.

Once a project starts with the heavy machinery, yep, it can usually be done in relatively short time frames because that Gantt Chart has been finalised, legally binding milestones set, and Project Management goes into overdrive: financial stuff becomes critical (forecasts, accruals and variations). If something goes pear-shaped, the usual response is: '... achieving XYZ is dependant upon the availability of resources, the effects of inclement weather, and other unplanned events ...' = the ultimate get out of gaol free card excuse if time/financial blowouts occur! ;)
 

cookie64

4x4 Earth Contributer
There seems to be very few infrastructure projects that take longer than 4 years these days. Pollies don't want the opposition getting any credit for their ideas.
Funny you say that, we had a Liberal Government who took over from a Labor Government who were busy closing Hospitals and had sold the Repatriation Hospital - in fact our current Premier was the signature on that deal, well the Libs came in stopped the sale and started pouring money into the Hospitals, building infrastructure with the presumed view of employing more Doctors & Nurses once the Infrastructure was there. Well an election was had and the Ambos conspired against the Government writing slogans all over the Ambulances owned by the Public in fact there was an advert that the AEC stopped as it was incorrect, Labor won. Guess what they had a plan to stop the ramping - there's still ramping, but they are now opening up the infrastructure projects that the Libs put in place, so there is now room to put people but not enough Nurses and Doctors.
 

discomatt

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Funny you say that, we had a Liberal Government who took over from a Labor Government who were busy closing Hospitals and had sold the Repatriation Hospital - in fact our current Premier was the signature on that deal, well the Libs came in stopped the sale and started pouring money into the Hospitals, building infrastructure with the presumed view of employing more Doctors & Nurses once the Infrastructure was there. Well an election was had and the Ambos conspired against the Government writing slogans all over the Ambulances owned by the Public in fact there was an advert that the AEC stopped as it was incorrect, Labor won. Guess what they had a plan to stop the ramping - there's still ramping, but they are now opening up the infrastructure projects that the Libs put in place, so there is now room to put people but not enough Nurses and Doctors.
Same in Vic, heaps of hospitals being built, heaps of money being poured down the drain due to incompetent consultants and architects, heaps of overrun time and budgets. Then when they are finally finished no staff to run them at capacity.
I am currently running a fit our at a new build adjoining the Alfred, the 4th hospital job I have been on in 5 years, all are the same with budget and stuff ups. The big hospitals have tents out the back where the ambulances park up while waiting to be able to unload patients, the site offices at the Alfred are right next to them, they are pretty busy…
Covid highlighted the importance of trying to stay fit and healthy with good gut health and immune system, the current health care system enforces that importance
 

Toyasaurus

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I think the home solar/battery industry needs to take the led from the rest of big business.

Go out and buy itself some politicians.
 

LongRoad2Go

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Coincidentally, was speaking with a relative last week who is a mechanic on the Central Coast (NSW). Their Manager advised them a new protocol was made in their workshop: work that involves the removal of or modification near a fuel tank, all staff must wear leather gloves and long sleeves ... due to the large number of spiders and snakes being found. The mechanics now empty a tin of fly spray into the cavities before commencing work - good for some spiders, though likely to just piss-off snakes!
 

Toyasaurus

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I always have a good laugh at "Just Rolled In" on Youtube.
Some of the things people do or don`t do to their cars in the US is incredible.
I guess some are as bad out here as well.

Lucky for the mechanic it was a python not a trouser snake.
That would be hard to explain.
 

typhoeus

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I always have a good laugh at "Just Rolled In" on Youtube.
Some of the things people do or don`t do to their cars in the US is incredible.
I guess some are as bad out here as well.

Lucky for the mechanic it was a python not a trouser snake.
That would be hard to explain.
I don't think they have yearly inspections there, I watch that channel too, and some of the death traps that are allowed on the road is scary
 

typhoeus

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