Installing a Winch should I install a dual battery?
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jhendo72
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Rusty Panels
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Just make sure that you keep the engine running when you are actually using the winch in a recovery. They draw a lot of current and you will soon flatten your battery.
John U
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Slightly off topic, but same deal for your compressor.
Get a compressor before you get a winch.
Chatty
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And remember duty cycle for both.
Compressors and winches don't like being run 100% - usually work to something like 5 minutes on, 5 minutes off.
Chatty
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It's normally the compressor / winch that has duty cycle concerns, as the motors in them overheat (or bearings as well).
There can be other issues - my compressor is rated to 100% duty cycle, but the air gets so hot that it weakens the hose and causes blowouts.
Having said that, most batteries don't like long, heavy current draws - which is the definition of what a winch does. So restricting duty cycle can help your battery as well, even with the engine running.
Hoyks
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I just monitor it, rather than have set run/rest times. I've been out and given my winch an absolute flogging and the motor has barely got warm. I do up the RPM so it doesn't completely suck the guts out of the battery though. Working it hard with a lower voltage and it does get warmer quicker.
My compressor gets more heat from the cylinder than the motor. I run a pressure switch and a air tank, so its not going all the time.
Batts88
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Also never had trouble with a winch getting hot in the past 30yrs it depends how you use it. Don't be in a big hurry and push it till breaking point on a single line pull then you'll flatten the battery as well. Snatch blocks make a big difference and being able to idle the engine up to help charging the battery with spotties off at night. I'm looking at Sherpa winches for my next one any one got one. I left the 22yr old Warn XD9000 on the patrol when I sold it which was still working.
Agreed. Snatch blocks are a bit of a pain to set up and store but well worth the effort. I even swapped over to dyemma type rope extensions instead of straps which is useful in some longer snatching.
I have broken a few ropes, and 1 winch, mostly moving logs. DOH.
Triton14
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Or maybe for the other reason we install dual battery systems, in case your in the middle of nowhere & your starter draws flat or fails.
To me thats more important than keeping the beer or milk cold
Albynsw
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Or maybe for the other reason we install dual battery systems, in case your in the middle of nowhere & your starter draws flat or fails.
To me thats more important than keeping the beer or milk cold
I remember coming across a couple out west who had a flat battery after camping there and were sitting around waiting for their solar panel to charge up their battery so they could start the car.
Gave them a jump start but I guess they would of sorted themselves out in another 3 or 4 hours
Yeah. The guy was planning a few relaxing hours doing nothing after telling the wife they were stuck for a while. and nothing they could do other than sit back, relax, and enjoy a beer or two.
Then you came along and "helped him" get back to work straight away Alby. I'm sure he is still telling his mates about the guy that came out of the middle of nowhere and screwed his planned relaxation day. Sitting next to the wife who would not shut up for the whole day about how he should be like the nice gentleman who "Saved them"
LOL
CTL
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You need to get with the times mate. Plenty of inexpensive, quality lithium jump starters that will get you going again. Small and easy to stow.Or maybe for the other reason we install dual battery systems, in case your in the middle of nowhere & your starter draws flat or fails.
To me thats more important than keeping the beer or milk cold
Chatty
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That's not a long time - try it when you have 10 wheels to reinflate after a corrugated dirt road. I'm looking at around 45 minutes.
Batts88
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My patrol only had 4 x 285's but the main compressor I used was around 16yrs old.
reason there is a flood of fake li-ion in the world is to feed the cheap consumer market. Its huge! There is a reason I dont use lithium jumpers because down the line you pay for it, amazing how soo many gadgets really do weigh your life down and how soo many are oblivious to this.
To me they are toys for hoarders and more clutter in life.
As for the starter battery, the real danger would be a failure and no jumpstart is gonna help you there, so travel way out you should always carry a second aux.
Buy quality, replace a little earlier and you will never need to jumpstart, I never have ever once remotely had a low starter, the effort spent in a lithium jumper could just be spent into the starter in the first place.
Winching may be different, but I have seen guys who know how to winch never need a jump with correct technique.
To me they are toys for hoarders and more clutter in life.
As for the starter battery, the real danger would be a failure and no jumpstart is gonna help you there, so travel way out you should always carry a second aux.
Buy quality, replace a little earlier and you will never need to jumpstart, I never have ever once remotely had a low starter, the effort spent in a lithium jumper could just be spent into the starter in the first place.
Winching may be different, but I have seen guys who know how to winch never need a jump with correct technique.