I put an upright fridge in my wagon..

TonyF8

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The only problem with upright fridges, is they dump the cold air located at the bottom of the fridge as soon as you open the door
 

cam04

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Every one writes up an issue with front opening fridges loosing cold air when the door is open and stuff bouncing around yet just about every caravan and campervan has a front opening fridge and they survive fine - so why is it an issue if installed in a car rather than a van. I dont have an issue with my front opening fridge in the van - a little air might escape but the food still stays cold. I think you will find that just opening a lid and rummaging around in a chest style fridge also looses a bit of cold air.
Mine was in the drawbar box of my campomatic m3, so you’d argue just about the very best seat in the house suspension wise. Still had hell’s own trouble with it. We also hired a 19ft van a few years running and managed to reorganise the fridge in that a few times. The issue for me was that the heavy bottles are in the door so they stress the hinges, and the door bent because anything that comes loose works against it all day long unbeknownst to anybody and the fridge runs flat out all day and kills the batteries. That’s my experience with them.
 

Batts88

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Every one writes up an issue with front opening fridges loosing cold air when the door is open and stuff bouncing around yet just about every caravan and campervan has a front opening fridge and they survive fine - so why is it an issue if installed in a car rather than a van. I dont have an issue with my front opening fridge in the van - a little air might escape but the food still stays cold. I think you will find that just opening a lid and rummaging around in a chest style fridge also looses a bit of cold air.
Yeah opening the door on an upright is one of those things that always gets blown out of proportion it's not like all the items inside suddenly drop to ambiant temp every fridge looses cold air no big deal. It is a a big deal if you have a poor set up with very limited power supply for any type of fridge.

Also most have a few issues with packing whatever type of fridge they buy when they start out but most people learn how to pack a fridge as best they can and sometimes use different storage containers etc to suit travelling.
 

aidanmair

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Yeah opening the door on an upright is one of those things that always gets blown out of proportion it's not like all the items inside suddenly drop to ambiant temp every fridge looses cold air no big deal. It is a a big deal if you have a poor set up with very limited power supply for any type of fridge.

Also most have a few issues with packing whatever type of fridge they buy when they start out but most people learn how to pack a fridge as best they can and sometimes use different storage containers etc to suit travelling.
aidanmair good idea hope you enjoy it for many yrs.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks mate
 

Petunia

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I do not subscribe to the theory ''it might'' either it will or it won't!! It appears it will suit your needs and you are happy with it, that's all that matters. Watched a few of your other videos, and you not on the Salt and Pepper list, like some others are immediately labelled, as soon as you open their videos.

I still run a gas chest fridge, have done for 25 years, never owned one them fandangle new electric ones. It will run for 21 days with no sun, and the helicopter food drop can drop two bags of ice and that lasts 4 days, try that with your upright. ;) It also chews 10amps on 12volt, that is the biggest drawback with it, hands down! It has suited my needs for that long, Meh!:cool:
 

Bru9

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Yeah chest or upright, the operator makes or breaks it, many issues with chest fridges. Ideally id always go 2 40l chests in a wagon so that gives me max organization, ie one 40l dedicated to drinks (8-12l of water in stainless bottles some vacuum insulated and various sizes for walking hiking eetc) the other half of the stainless mesh divider is soft drinks and misc. Super easy but I drink fluids like race car drinks fuel.

If Petunia has had 3 way for that long then id say he isnt missing out on much.... main reason I abounded twin rc1180s was I run so much stuff on battery so the compressor fridges are just along for the ride. Hint hint 1-2kw of glass and alloy panels at high voltage.

Facepalm at the talk of cold air escaping...like the talk of inverter conversion losses. Seriously adjust the panel angles a bit more and make up for the losses. I have never once gave a hoot about it.
 

boobook

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I had a mate that used to say drinking a lot of port in the early hours of the morning was the gateway to the "truth zone". Once you entered the truth zone, the solution to everything was crystal clear, you could solve all the world's problems, and you have insight into everything.

The only problem was that none of this information could be extracted back into the real world, and when you wake up, none of what was thought about in the truth zone makes any sense. :D
 
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Chatty

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I had a mate that used to say drinking a lot of port in the early hours of the morning was the gateway to the "truth zone". Once you entered the truth zone, the solution to everything was crystal clear, you could solve all the world's problems, and you have insight into everything.

The only problem was that none of this information could be extracted back into the real world, and when you wake up, none of what was thought about in the truth zone makes any sense. :D
That sounds like Grumpy and the time he emptied my 5 litre port barrel at Robe!
 

Batts88

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I do not subscribe to the theory ''it might'' either it will or it won't!! It appears it will suit your needs and you are happy with it, that's all that matters. Watched a few of your other videos, and you not on the Salt and Pepper list, like some others are immediately labelled, as soon as you open their videos.

I still run a gas chest fridge, have done for 25 years, never owned one them fandangle new electric ones. It will run for 21 days with no sun, and the helicopter food drop can drop two bags of ice and that lasts 4 days, try that with your upright. ;) It also chews 10amps on 12volt, that is the biggest drawback with it, hands doce and that lasts 4 days, try that with your upright. ;) It also chews 10amps on 12volt, that is the biggest drawback with it, hands down! It has suited my needs for that long, Meh!:cool:
Someone with a fandangle electric one's that has a seperate freezer section can carry the ice for you it would be cheaper than a helicopter drop.
 
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Batts88

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Yes, and everything that falls down ends up working against the door which is invariably locked only at the top or middle so it eventually bends/loosens and hemmorages cold air out the bottom. Then the freezer ices up. That, and wondering what the hell is going to fall out every time you open them after driving sent me running back to old school chest fridges.
The freezer ices up on chest fridge/freezers as well so no difference there. My Evakool does but takes quite a while.
 
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cam04

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The freezer ices up on chest fridge/freezers as well so no difference there. My Evakool does but takes guite a while.
I have 2 evakools. Read what I write.
There is a huge difference. Once the door is cracked even slightly front openers ice up in a matter of hours in the tropical north. Chest fridge lids naturally want to stay closed. Both my evakools have dodgy clasps and it makes no real difference to the way they function. A front opener requires a perfect seal at all times or thermal efficiency is lost and they run hard and ice up from sucking fresh air.
 

Batts88

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I have 2 evakools. Read what I write.
There is a huge difference. Once the door is cracked even slightly front openers ice up in a matter of hours in the tropical north. Chest fridge lids naturally want to stay closed. Both my evakools have dodgy clasps and it makes no real difference to the way they function. A front opener requires a perfect seal at all times or thermal efficiency is lost and they run hard and ice up from sucking fresh air.
wow "read what I write" an arrogant way of saying you may have missed the bit about things leaning against the door. No sure how you can bend/loosen things cracking the seal with the door locked the're usually pretty sturdy from my experience but not indestructable enough for some you could have reinforced the door with a sheet of 6 mm plate. Poor packing on the owners behalf would be the main problem if it happened every time the door was opened and lack of sense to recognise and fix the issue but that explains a lot when you admit you also have dodgy clasps on 2 other chest fridges whether or not they are causing an issue not into fixing things hey good luck with it.
 

cam04

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wow "read what I write" an arrogant way of saying you may have missed the bit about things leaning against the door. No sure how you can bend/loosen things cracking the seal with the door locked the're usually pretty sturdy from my experience but not indestructable enough for some you could have reinforced the door with a sheet of 6 mm plate. Poor packing on the owners behalf would be the main problem if it happened every time the door was opened and lack of sense to recognise and fix the issue but that explains a lot when you admit you also have dodgy clasps on 2 other chest fridges whether or not they are causing an issue not into fixing things hey good luck with it.
Hang on, you’re the one jumping in telling me there’s no difference on my posts, not the other way round, and I’m the arrogant one? And now you’re off on another tangent of assumption with your poor packing agenda and some stranger’s maintenance regime. You don’t have to be ‘not sure’, you can just ask someone who has already been there and done it. If you’d bother to ask, the upright Waeco I owned was an almost perfect fit for a drink can which would fall down and wedge between the door basket and the shelf and work it’s way past - forcing the door over every bump and wedging itself in tighter And stuffing both the hinges and bending the bottom of the door out enough that the bottom seal let air past. What happens when a can falls in a chest fridge? SFA.

Anyone who has an RF series evakool will be well versed with precisely how long the shock cord clasps last - evakool have sent them out for free in the past. The fact that I can leave them half stuffed for no poor result speaks volumes for good latent design where the door wants to fall and seal all on its own....

I’m saying all this mostly for the younger kids who haven’t been through this cycle and had the ‘benefit’ of wasting their money yet. My upright was a factory fit in the camper I had and good riddance to it.

In hindsight if I was to buy another upright, I’d get ahead of the curve and simply fit a lower door clasp/locking mechanism prior to going up the cape and stuffing a fridge. Once we work out what was going on the damage was done and we had to strap the base of the door closed each day - a minor PITA but we got it home.
 
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