How much weight on the roof for a 2001 Mitsubishi Challenger?

peterfermtech

Well-Known Member
I was at Bunnings and I saw a Pajero loaded with about 25+ sheets of formply on the roof. His mate had a hilux fully loaded as well. They were still loading when I left and I didn't hang around to see what the outcome was.
 

rogerazz

4x4 Earth Contributer
How times have changed. Many things in life come into the equation now.
Back in the day ( 1960's) we did spotlighting with someone on sitting on the roof rack of a Volkswagon.
More recently (2019) we did spotlighting with two people sitting on the roof rack of Landcruiser Troopy. :eek:
 

Jamesjamesjames

New Member
Hi Colly. We're sticking to the same route. And no haha not at all I appreciate your insight.

I've seen what you've said about using the space in the 4x4 and I'm looking into getting a smaller toolbox which can slide under the bed I have in the back. Then I can put the lighter boxes (pots pans etc) on the roof alongside 2-3 jerry cans so the weight isn't so heavy. Water can get stored on the bed inside the 4x4.

I'm getting 2 new AT tyres fitted so hopefully the do the job and I have a half decent spare. I would still like a second spare so the next project is getting a bigger fuel tank so I dont have to carry so many jerry cans on top. This will lighten the load on the roof hopefully allowing me to take a 2nd spare.

But I might not get this 2nd spare/bigger fuel tank and instead see how it goes with 1 spare and 2-3 cans... that all comes down to money unfortunately.
 

Colly18

Well-Known Member
Do let us know how the trip goes when it happens. Plenty here will appreciate it, particularly if you post a few snaps. It would be a good idea if someone in the convoy has a sat phone and an PLB in case of emergency. I assume you guys will all have UHF communication between convoy vehicles(?)
 

Jamesjamesjames

New Member
Yeah I'll keep you guys posted. I'm sure we'll need some more advice along the way.

Yeah we plan to rent a SATphone. Theres plenty of us going so it should be cheap as chips. We'll look into getting a PLB too.

Yeah we're all getting decent UHF radios. Is there a brand/model you would reccomend? I'm looking at this 5w Crystal Pro handheld one. Good reviews online so it should do the trick. My budget is $200 max
 

cam04

Well-Known Member
I’m still using an eBay special 5w handheld from 2006. If on a tight budget that is the way I’d go.
 

Colly18

Well-Known Member
I'd go for an in vehicle mounted unit and Oricom and Uniden are well known brands. Plus my preference would be a whip aerial rather than the short rubber ducky type, reason being my undertsanding is you'll get better range (and that's what has worked well for me over the years). Travelling in convoy vehicles easily get spread over several km and it is likely a handheld just won't have the range, despite what the marketing hype says.
Personally I'd choose something like this, 5 year warranty, areial, complete kit ready for you or a mate to DIY install; for $195 delivered from ebay (see if local stores can come close if you want to support local businesses)

 

callmejoe

Well-Known Member
I'm getting 2 new AT tyres fitted so hopefully the do the job and I have a half decent spare. I would still like a second spare so the next project is getting a bigger fuel tank so I dont have to carry so many jerry cans on top. This will lighten the load on the roof hopefully allowing me to take a 2nd spare.

But I might not get this 2nd spare/bigger fuel tank and instead see how it goes with 1 spare and 2-3 cans... that all comes down to money unfortunately.

If you want another decent spare, if it was me I'd buy 4 new tyres and use 1 of yr older tyres as that 2nd spare. As you have only considering replacing 2 at a guessing the other 2 are worn but OK. ? If that's the case I'd go 4 new tyres and then use these tyres as yr spares, this way you know what real condition your spares are in. A spare needs to be just as good and reliable and what your already got on. You may need that spare still to get you another 1,000km before a replacement can be found. In other words it should be of the same quality as the tyres your already using, it's a spare not a replacement tyre.

You have to be weary about buying second tyres, just because they look great, heap of tread etc doesn't mean it hasn't spent it whole life just sitting in the sun. (a killer)

Personally think, if your travelling tyres are a very important if not 1 of the most important. What may seem expensive now could end up costing 5x's as much down the track.
I cannot count the amounts of traveller I have come across "stranded" all because of tyres, such as the spares flat, the spare was so stuffed it only went 20km before blowing, or the spare is such poor /cheap quality it was punctured straight away, even had the wrong size.

Do it once and do it right.

Joe
 

Bru9

Active Member
Thanks for your replies everyone.

What do you propose I do?

I feel like I need the jerry cans, water cans, 2nd spare and tool box as we will be spending alot of time offroading. Where else could I store all this equipment if, like you say, the roof cant support all that weight?

Is buying another car a better alternative? Or wont any car be capable of the weight load I plan to mount on the roof? I really appreciate your replies
The straight dope is ALL vehicles are designed for house wives in supermarket car parks, dont believe me? Lol look at your local supermarket and tell me what you see...
The weight and payload ratings are 100% utter BS and only apply to tarmac driving. The Mitsubishi is made so weak even my pajero or a LC 200 the only 4wds I know that stand a chance of 100kg on the roof offroad are the troopy and the older y60 patrol. Most 4wds should never see more than 50-60kg on roof. The sad reality is most guys get by outback by living like bums with absolute minimal stuff. Best thing to do is get a single cab ute or a small tough trailer if wagon or dual cab. An alloy canopy will hold much more than any wagon roof. Some outback guys say to derate the measly 700kg payload of wagons by 30% when traveling remote so that tells you how utterly hopeless the situation is. Buying expensive gear and making your own is good ways to get the weight down, for example I use a carbon fiber tripod with hiking grade high output led lantern, expensive but needed.
It's all smoke n mirrors out there :(
Now I found this thread by searching info about oricom handhelds.
 

Bigfish1

Well-Known Member
Thanks for your replies everyone.

What do you propose I do?

I feel like I need the jerry cans, water cans, 2nd spare and tool box as we will be spending alot of time offroading. Where else could I store all this equipment if, like you say, the roof cant support all that weight?

Is buying another car a better alternative? Or wont any car be capable of the weight load I plan to mount on the roof? I really appreciate your replies

Have you been on the Pajero forum and asked this question. You,ll get answers from people who actually own and tour with the challenger. Answers mat be similar to what is on here but at least your going to a forum that has a lot of challenger owners.
 
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