GU/GQ Patrol

spoon88

New Member
Hi all

Looking at buying a GQ or GU ute, coil cab. Was recommended this by a friend, but just thought i'd get some more input- anyone had any experience with one, or know of someone who does? Good points/bad points?

Cheers

Matt
 

crushaah

New Member
If you get a ute it'll be the TD42 engine. Just get one you wont regret it. Get an accurate history of it as you can before buying though.
There's too much to say about them (mostly good) but yeah anything you need to know is on the Patrol forum.
 

croozza

Active Member
GU is better than GQ as it is stronger in the driveline, GQ has weak CV's, and not much room inside, GU has more room, and is the better drive.
 

crushaah

New Member
GU is better than GQ as it is stronger in the driveline, GQ has weak CV's, and not much room inside, GU has more room, and is the better drive.
They aren't weak at all, they're just not as strong as the larger GU cv's. Both stronger than cruiser cv's anyway ;) But yes, GU's are definitely roomier and comfier............and look nicer.
 

spoon88

New Member
Rightio... thanks for the feedback! Unfortunately, as always, the limiting factor is money, so it'll probably be a GQ, purely because it'll be cheaper. Is it just me, or do the utes seem to be alot more expensive than the wagons?
 

BUSHNUT

Well-Known Member
Rightio... thanks for the feedback! Unfortunately, as always, the limiting factor is money, so it'll probably be a GQ, purely because it'll be cheaper. Is it just me, or do the utes seem to be alot more expensive than the wagons?

Yeah, especially at present, with the big 4.2's , The mining companies are not ordering any of the V8 landcruisers, big issues with frontend and transmissions . Nissan in dropping the 4.2s tried flogging utes with the little 3.0 , they are still sitting in the yards . They reckon the 4.2 s are in big demand over in WA and NT, my girl has only 51,000 on the clock, I am often tempted to see what I would get for her, they reckon what she was worth new .
 

knot_gillty

Active Member
Yeah, especially at present, with the big 4.2's , The mining companies are not ordering any of the V8 landcruisers, big issues with frontend and transmissions . Nissan in dropping the 4.2s tried flogging utes with the little 3.0 , they are still sitting in the yards . They reckon the 4.2 s are in big demand over in WA and NT, my girl has only 51,000 on the clock, I am often tempted to see what I would get for her, they reckon what she was worth new .

2lt of Milk and a dozen eggs??? Bargain....

My father inlaw owns a GU ute. Not bad but having driven the same year Cruiser i prefer the Cruiser. Each to their own. As crushaah said get an accurate history of the vehicle and make sure it's been serviced regularly and all should be sweet.
 

croozza

Active Member
They aren't weak at all, they're just not as strong as the larger GU cv's. Both stronger than cruiser cv's anyway ;) But yes, GU's are definitely roomier and comfier............and look nicer.

Then why do I see people with GQ's bying new CV's all the time! and the early 80 series cruiser has stronger CV'S than the GQ, that is a little known fact for you, as they are bigger in the early models.
Don't shoot the messenger! only giving the facts!
 

spoon88

New Member
Hmm.. Another thing too.. i've noticed that there aren't that many coil-cab chassis around, but a few more leaf-sprung models in the rear.. major problem? Also, anyone know how long the TD42 engine is sposed to live? Most of the GQ utes that i've seen are in excess of 300,000 k's... seems a bit high, for any sort of engine!

Matt
 

BUSHNUT

Well-Known Member
Hmm.. Another thing too.. i've noticed that there aren't that many coil-cab chassis around, but a few more leaf-sprung models in the rear.. major problem? Also, anyone know how long the TD42 engine is sposed to live? Most of the GQ utes that i've seen are in excess of 300,000 k's... seems a bit high, for any sort of engine!

Matt


Rule of thumb is that on a relatively lazy diesel motor like the 4.2 , providing it has been well maintained 300,000 can be likened to a petrol motor that has clocked up 150,000 as it is basically an oiler .

That is unless gas assisted has been fitted , as this tends to make the motor drier . Also things like boosts can lessen engine life , I have been told .

Again , I stress service history and particularly condition of interior is a strong indicator of the owners attitude to the vehicle . ST is the all coil model, DX is the front coil rear leaf set up and there is another model that is all leaf - I think from memory the latter have longer trays but I will stand corrected .

Always get it checked over by a diesel or a 4WD mechanic .
 

croozza

Active Member
Hmm.. Another thing too.. i've noticed that there aren't that many coil-cab chassis around, but a few more leaf-sprung models in the rear.. major problem? Also, anyone know how long the TD42 engine is sposed to live? Most of the GQ utes that i've seen are in excess of 300,000 k's... seems a bit high, for any sort of engine!

Matt

Just get a compression test done, that will tell you if the motor has had regular oil changes, just remember high km vehicles can be better than low km vehicles, this is because high km vehicles have most likely had long trips, so the motor was warm all the time, where as a low km vehicle may have just done short trips so the motor would not have been running at the correct temps causing exessive wear, but the TD42 should be good for 600000km just like the landcruiser motors as long as they have been looked after.
 

crushaah

New Member
Then why do I see people with GQ's bying new CV's all the time! and the early 80 series cruiser has stronger CV'S than the GQ, that is a little known fact for you, as they are bigger in the early models.
Don't shoot the messenger! only giving the facts!
lol no doubt you are a one eyed cruiser man :D I could go on about the "weaknesses" in cruisers too but I'm not interested in a Nissan vs Toyota debate ;) Little known fact to me? Hmm ok.
Then why do I see people with GQ's bying new CV's all the time!
I'm not sure, I dont think it's because they are weak but everything has it's limits. GQ's are often bought as a weekend warrior machine or as a base for a comp rig because of their reputation and adaptability then cop an absolute flogging off road so maybe that has something to do with it.
I don't knock 80s they have some great things about them, a few of my friends have them and i've worked on them with them and we love comparing the differences that Nissan and Toyota have put into their vehicles that makes them what they are.
 

croozza

Active Member
I'm not going down the nissan/toyota road either, I know the cruiser can blow the front diff but that is due to the reverse cut crown wheel, the CV's are stonger than the GQ's, the 100 series had the weakest CV's but the fixed that when they went IFS, however each manufacturer builds in weak points in the drive line, in the cruiser it is the front crown wheel, in the GQ it is the CV's, in the current GU it is the motor. BUT if you drive like a moron you will break things no matter what vehicle you buy.
 
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