Expedition Truck build

Albynsw

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I have been dreaming of one of these for several years and been looking in earnest for the last 12months but nothing done suits us
I have researched all the brands and come to the conclusion the Isuzu is the one to have for us
I went to QLD a couple of weeks ago to look at them all in more detail and have put a deposit on a new truck build from All Terrain Warriors
We are not a fan of caravanning and can’t see that changing over time so this is a long term build for us

This is basically what I have ordered and will fill in the rest of the build my self


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There are a lot of decisions to be made with the fitout of the camper body so feel free to offer criticism or suggestions
 

phs

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Nice,
Fit out will most certainly depend on how you intend to use it, time off-road to remoteness ect. no doubt something that big you can afford to take the kitchen sink

What are people general reviews for drivability? Looking the specs they do seem like an old school tractor decent displacement for little output. 114kw 419nm roughly 33” rubber standard.
 

Triton14

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Wow, thats huge & impressive!

Still I'd imagine its on the same size lines as a Unimog??

Do you need a different licence for something that big?
 

CTL

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Congrats @Albynsw exact same truck we had priced with similar options and were about to order when Covid first struck.
We had a couple of meetings with StyroMax with the intention that they would do the CAD drawings and supply the panels etc all precut for me to built the camper. Attended one of their all day workshops to learn how to build it etc.
Good luck. I am a bit envious.
 

Albynsw

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Wow, thats huge & impressive!

Still I'd imagine its on the same size lines as a Unimog??

Do you need a different licence for something that big?

Not as big as a Mog, they are 200mm ( 8 inches) wider than a Landcruiser/ Patrol and about 1metre longer

You need a Light rigid license which I completed about a month ago
 

Albynsw

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Nice,
Fit out will most certainly depend on how you intend to use it, time off-road to remoteness ect. no doubt something that big you can afford to take the kitchen sink

What are people general reviews for drivability? Looking the specs they do seem like an old school tractor decent displacement for little output. 114kw 419nm roughly 33” rubber standard.

We essentially are campers not caravaners so the fitout will be such that we can be comfortable and function in inclement weather conditions but still basic. More in tune with the hybrid camper trailer fitout I am thinking
We are looking at extended remote style travel

They have a 5.2litre 4 cylinder old school motor, no Adblue or DPF I have opted for the manual but there is an auto option but not as good apparently.
The setup I am doing is Parabolic suspension, Kings remote res shocks and 35 inch super single tyres. Ride quality is equivalent to a 70 series but still very truck like. Because you sit so high (which is brilliant for looking at the scenery ) the bumps etc are magnified
Their off-road ability including sand is as good as any other vehicle
 

Albynsw

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Congrats @Albynsw exact same truck we had priced with similar options and were about to order when Covid first struck.
We had a couple of meetings with StyroMax with the intention that they would do the CAD drawings and supply the panels etc all precut for me to built the camper. Attended one of their all day workshops to learn how to build it etc.
Good luck. I am a bit envious.

I remember touching on this subject with you before :)
I have met with Styromax and a couple of other similar suppliers but haven’t committed to any of them yet
 

Petunia

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I now need go to the ER, I think I busted a hip? Seems I slipped over in a pool of my own drool. :(
You need a Light rigid license
I read the website they specialise in 4.5Ton plus ... that puts it in a MR class, up to 4.5 is LR. The tow package is 4.5T so normally the gmv of tow rig exceeds towed carp. You weigh it when you get it done.

oh and .... if you get it home and think the wheel nuts came lose .... na it was me I just changed where they point to mess in your head. :D
 

Albynsw

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I now need go to the ER, I think I busted a hip? Seems I slipped over in a pool of my own drool. :(

I read the website they specialise in 4.5Ton plus ... that puts it in a MR class, up to 4.5 is LR. The tow package is 4.5T so normally the gmv of tow rig exceeds towed carp. You weigh it when you get it done.

oh and .... if you get it home and think the wheel nuts came lose .... na it was me I just changed where they point to mess in your head. :D

This is what you can drive with a LR as per NSW register

A class LR – Light Rigid licence lets you drive:
rigid vehicles with a GVM of more than 4.5 tonnes, but not more than 8 tonnes (any towed trailer must not weigh more than 9 tonnes GVM)


I sat for a HR license

I only just found out today that they use left hand and right hand nuts on either side of the truck
That is a trap for young players, you would be busting your arse trying to undo the LH nuts
 

discomatt

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Thats very cool.
The whole BCF Ad in one & biking thrown in to :)
I spoke to the owner about it, he bought it as is from the company that built it as a fully specked demo for shows, it saved him a bit on purchase price but also saved on the 12 month wait , he loved it
He had his wife and kids along for the holiday, 2 years so had a big van in tow for the comfort and base camps but left that behind when dong harder stuff like the Cape , best of both worlds
 
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Petunia

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This is what you can drive with a LR as per NSW register

A class LR – Light Rigid licence lets you drive:
rigid vehicles with a GVM of more than 4.5 tonnes, but not more than 8 tonnes (any towed trailer must not weigh more than 9 tonnes GVM)


I sat for a HR license

I only just found out today that they use left hand and right hand nuts on either side of the truck
That is a trap for young players, you would be busting your arse trying to undo the LH nuts
Ah yes sorry, brain fog ....get it right Choonya!! up to 4.5 on a car license, 4.5 to 8T [15 gross] LR, 8T to ?T MR 22/24T HR.

Left side left thread, studs will have a "L" stamped on the end, common with dual tyred trucks, and early &@%$#&! mazda utes too, the stud located the first [inside rim] then a right hand nut secures the second rim, undoing the outside rim nut tightens the inside rim stud, or you will unscrew both rims bolted together.
 

cam04

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They say you haven’t been 4wding until you’ve done it in a cab over. The first few drop offs are a leap of faith. Enjoy the journey of designing it, I’m excited to watch. Permanent travel truck or maybe dual purpose with a lift off canopy?
 

Albynsw

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They say you haven’t been 4wding until you’ve done it in a cab over. The first few drop offs are a leap of faith. Enjoy the journey of designing it, I’m excited to watch. Permanent travel truck or maybe dual purpose with a lift off canopy

It will be a permanent travel truck. I toyed with the idea of a lift off. This vehicle is predominantly set up for the two of us but I want to be able to carry a few extra passengers on occasions without losing living floor space of a dual cab.
If it is a designated motor home we can get extra passenger seating certified in the back but you cant with a lift off setup.
Thinking of using this style of seating so they can be folded away or removed when not needed

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If you look at the back of the cab in my first post you can see the blue plastic over the pass through that will connect the cab to the camper body
 

Toyasaurus

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Old Valiants had the left/right nut`s on them to, the tyre guys always asked me if my charger had them.

I saw a Mitsubishi Fuso truck going down my street a few weeks ago, same sort of setup, 35`s super singles.
It had a 20ft container conversion that was bolted directly to the chassis.

I was going to have a look around for it but forgot, looked very nice though.
Couldn`t find any info on the web about it, pity.

Enjoy the build and keep us in the loop.

P.S. Don`t forget about the chassis flex there is a lot in those beastie`s.
 

Albynsw

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Been fiddling with a few renders and this is basically where I am heading. A hard side would be cheaper and easier but I am conc with overall height and the restrictions it brings on tighter tracks so are looking at a pop top type scenario to keep closer to the vehicle cab height

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Albynsw

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I have also been looking at a power management system and would be interested on what people think. Enerdrive and Victron seem to be the two at the top of the list. Both have excellent reputations but Enerdrive might have the edge because it is a local company with local support and Australa wide agents plus they have the products to do a complete system. They are also the dearest options
Any ither suggested wats to go?

My basic needs are
-300 or 400 amos of lithium
-DCDc charging
Solar
Inverter 2,500 to 3000 watts
Not so important but mains power charger

Power usage will be two fridges, lights , fans, water pump, portable induction cooktop. I don’t think we will be doing any AC but will leave provision should that change down the track.

Hot water will be either gas or diesel, looking for advice
I think I will do a gas cooktop as will likely be carrying it anyway for the BBQ and the water heater

The other consideration is the shitter. The cassette type are the most popular in vans but that may also be a pricepoint and easy solution for them. The compost or bag types are getting a bit of traction now too but don’t know a lot about them
The other option which is used a lot on boats is a macerator type with a holding tank

Thoughts?
 

discomatt

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Morbatter and solar the better, don’t use steel go on solar blanket type panels, mount traditional panels with a air gap, if going a pop top cover snider roof weight and a electrical lifter , we got on on the van due to me having a slightly dodgy shoulder and it being a 10 year plan
Consider all elective and no gas which go he’s space for a generator instead of gas bottles
Diesel heater uses stuff all fuel and works really well for water and ducted heating
 
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