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Equipment to take out on your first trip out

Discussion in 'Information For Newbies' started by Patriot, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. RoughNReady

    RoughNReady Member

    Recovery points are my kryptonite. I need them, don't have them, and I'm sure if I took it somewhere to get it done whet they'd do would be inadequate simply because they don't really know what they are dealing with.
    Searching on the internet yields questions, and very few solutions. Most of which I wouldn't trust.

    I have a question about jacks. I bought a bottle jack but realised I have a massive problem with storing it safely / correctly. Are screw jacks like the Toyota ones safe or a death trap? This is mostly just if it gets a flat. usual duty stuff.
    My every day driving kit that's with me on a trip to the shop or whatever consists of a small but well thought out toolkit, insulated silver tarp, air compressor, bottle jack, hand crank for the engine and an old ex army muti tool with the shovel / bottle opener, axe / hammer and saw. And usually jumper leads too. They do get used. If I'm going further than the shop there's 10L water.

    That kit does me for short range exploring. Longer range and the 10L water becomes 20L, and the 40mm APC ammo box goes in too which has various sealants, torch, jumper leads (another set. It's because there's two cars), various hoses, wire, stripper, crimper and connectors etc.

    Even on short trips it pays to carry potable water including enough to give the car a drink, some food and means of shelter. I say this from experience. If anything happens stopping progress, even if you aren't far off the beaten track, and especially when travelling with family etc. things can get difficult really fast.

    I know I'm dealing mostly with breakdowns and not recovery, and that I've covered this before , but if something simple fails especially on one of those short trips down a track that you noticed a while back etc. it can be a big problem.
     
  2. 80lover96gxl

    80lover96gxl Moderator

    I still use the toyota screw jacks for my cruisers and never had an issue with them, 1 iv had for 7 yrs.
    Would reccommend a jacking plate tho for soft ground as the base is rather small but for jacking on concrete or blacktop it's fine unless you need a bit more hieght then use the plate.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
  3. brumbypt

    brumbypt Banned

    (With this cruiser)
    The first trip out I went to craigs hut, where else would I go?

    I dont think I took anything just went out.. somewhere simple.

    you have just bought an expensive rig, all the things above cost a fair bit too, so the first time out, just go, if you go with other 4wds then yes U will need a UHF, you should be able to borrow a handheld off someone.

    if you go out by yourself then make sure you have someone on standby ready to come up and pull you out, but you shouldnt be trying anything difficult anyway.


    My first little rig I stayed close to home about an hour away (Back then I used to go up to Kinglake NP)

    even in the earlier days of trail riding I stay close to home too..

    I learnt the tracks, never really did anything hard by myself.. still got stuck for hours once or twice. Used a trolley jack, jacked up the side of the rig, put rocks under the wheels, let it down again, put rocks under the jack, up again, more rocks etc under the wheels, down, more rocks under the jack, etc etc..
    Now days a high lift jack or plastic treads would have gotten me out in a few mins.




    but these days, I go anyway that I want to go. I have done all sorts of difficult tracks around aust by myself.

    have fun, learn lots from others and from getting experience.

    What I am saying is you don't need to put off going out 4wding until you have a rig full of recovery gear, just go and learn what you may need, then get them one at a time when you are ready.



    Peter,
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    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
  4. Rigger64

    Rigger64 Member

    If your going to use a GPSr Spare Battery's as well.
     
  5. RoughNReady

    RoughNReady Member

    If I could "Like" a post I would to this.

    Common sense goes a long way. Both as a preventative and a means of finding a solution.
     
  6. djone240

    djone240 New Member

    Thanks Patriot! I've got some shopping to do...
     
  7. Superdad

    Superdad Well-Known Member

    This is a bit over the top for newbies. The only piece of gear you need is a compressor first up. Tyres must come down off road so must go up when done. Compressor therefore will be used. Otherwise, full fuel tanks, phone charger, water and a shovel and use your head and avoid terrain you cannot recover from eg mud holes
     
  8. steve jmc

    steve jmc New Member

    Great tips for this newbie.
     
  9. avk351

    avk351 New Member

    Super dad is exactly on target, all I'd add is to take another truck with you and a snatch strap to pull you out if you get stuck. Get out there and have a go, you'll be surprised how much fun you can have with a relatively unmodified truck
     
  10. Sweeny009

    Sweeny009 New Member

    great info. all good points to concider
     
  11. tattooshazz

    tattooshazz New Member

    As we travel alone most of the time, and in some remote places where there is no phone reception, and not always able to catch someone on the UHF, I purchased a 'spot' device. It has a tracking function that puts a marker on a map every 10 minutes so your loved ones can know where you are at any given time. It has the SOS button (like epirb) if we get in a life threatening situation that sends our gps coordinates to the main centre (unfortunately in the USA, but they then call Australian local authorities) so we can get help to where we are. It also has a check in button that you can pre set a small message so when you activate the check in, it can email up to 10 email addresses with the message and a map with the coordinates so everyone knows you are safe and stopping there, it can also be posted onto a facebook page. HELP function will email preset email recipients with a pre set message so if it's not life threatening, someone can get help out to you. We have never had to use the SOS or Help functions, and hopefully never will, but its a little more piece of mind that we can get help if other forms of communication fail us. Also lovely to be able to keep a track of your trips this way.
     
  12. redtarro

    redtarro Member

    If you buy a second hand 4x4 with a BullBar check that it is secured properly, I,ve seen them come flying off under load.
     
  13. garry r

    garry r Member

    all good advise. I've followed the advise in the past and are now self sufficient in the gear that I've obtained. The only other thing that I would suggest is a PLB (personnel locating beacon). there not that expensive at about $350-, as it is good insurance should anything go wrong. I've purchased one as we travel alone most of the time, and for my health reasons. Should the cook be unable to drive, she can set off the PLB in an emergency situation and help via National Search and Rescue is not far away. I recommend that this should be a must in all offroading equipment. When the cook goes x-country skiing on her own she always takes the PLB, even though she skis the same 9km route each time. Garry/Judy
     
  14. cookie64

    cookie64 4x4 Earth Contributer

    If you are going into remote places then why have all your safety eggs in one proverbial basket. Spots are good but won't arrange a new tyre, battery or other car part or get advice from a Doctor, current road conditions, etc. I would strongly suggest either hiring or purchasing a HF Radio or Sat Phone, remote rescue costs $10s of thousands of dollars if only for the fact that your car has issues or some other non life threatening event.

    A recent article comes to mind Police fed up with 'dumb' desert tourists

    cheers
     
  15. ivan sutrisno

    ivan sutrisno Member

    I am in the market for recovery gear kit. Do brands make any difference? I can see they vary in price from $100-300 with pretty much the same contain/amount of gears. Any specific things I need to look out?
     
  16. Bomber2012

    Bomber2012 Well-Known Member

    Just a basic kit to start with "supacentre do a reasonable kit" tree protecter , snatch strap , extension strap , shackles , dampener , etc . :)
     
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