Current rigs for sale.

DogSec

Member
Aren’t people selling their vehicles at the moment?
I am looking at getting a rig that has had some mods already done for touring and up to ‘mild’ tracks.
There has been nothing since December 22.
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
People aren’t selling because there is nothing worth buying, my touring 4by would be on the market if I had something worth buying to replace it but nothing worth changing out to
 

Triton14

Well-Known Member
Personally I think there is more to it than that.
I think its got more to do with the economy instability/interest rates/length of wait time to get a new vehicle etc etc.

I guess the number of 2nds on the market could coincide with more new vehicles coming into the country for the new market??
 

hiluxxury

Active Member
Carsales has seen growth in 2nd advertisements recently. The economy is biting people with toys they cant afford. 2nd hand Landcruiser prices are coming down too.
 

smitty_r51

Well-Known Member
Just sold mine so they are there, do seem to be a lot of overpriced cars still because they have gear on them.
 

callmejoe

Well-Known Member
the Market changing, and I think the " re adjustment" for the real value of what they are selling is only just sinking, so they are chewing it over a bit longer before leaping into the for sale market.
 

tritsan

New Member
People aren’t selling because there is nothing worth buying, my touring 4by would be on the market if I had something worth buying to replace it but nothing worth changing out to
just go on Facebook market lace find a rig and do it up
 

LongRoad2Go

Well-Known Member
just go on Facebook market lace find a rig and do it up
Why do that when new vehicles are about to come online i.e. Toyota and Ineos? I find it easy to ignore the instant gratification thing that seems to afflict a lot of (young) people these days. Leave the money in the bank accruing compound interest and simply wait - get a new car with full warranty and zero use history ... seems to make a lot more sense.
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
Still a case for me that nothing on the market that does what I want out of a 4wd and has proved its asking price
If the New Defender was reliable there would be one in the driveway, if the Ineos didn’t have so many issues it would be on order, waiting for the 300 to prove itself in terms of longevity, not convinced the hot v wouldn’t eat itself over a 4-5 year period with destroying plastics and wiring when used in harsh conditions and towing , Toyota isn’t exactly known for nailing a new model
 

phs

Well-Known Member
LDV 4wd duel cab Ute 38k, 5 years warranty
15k service intervals capped and several hundred less than what our 200 needs every 10k

Once warranty is up you will still get 70% of your money back by just selling it to that mindset of its cheaper.

Unfortunately the Throw away car era is certainly upon us.

People are slowly catching on, a mate was looking at a 100 series 4.2TD 400k still more a lot more expensive than an LVD, he doesn’t care about mods just wants to camp can’t see how you could look past a cheaper brand new vehicle….

GO LVD and let the Ridiculous second hand market crash back to earth been in orbit for way too long
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
I can not see any of the old slugs , news utes or any LDV towing near 3 ton while fully loaded to 3 ton comfortably on dirt and black top while eating up to 6-700km without getting out exhausted then being able to do the toughest tracks all while averaging 11 to 14l/100km
Some people want different things from their car/4wd hence the reason there are only 3 4wds that come close to filling my requirements, as for the $$ side people spend what their budget can afford and those who can’t afford it often refer to it as a waste of money
 

phs

Well-Known Member
I guess everyone is different

Chinese 4wd ( cheap )
TOYOTA ( all rounder )
land-rover ( $$$$ )

Can’t comment on towing 3T in an LDV, but I would not recommend much of what is available expect a cruiser, patrol or yank tank

Having an LDV 22” work Ute can’t fault them for there value
 

LongRoad2Go

Well-Known Member
no cunt you don't want new shit cause.
they all have computer-based programming. in the long run you waste more money on it than what you will on an older cruiser or lux
you don't need warranty or use history an old 2h or ln106 or even a 1hdt,12ht can go goo in the late 400,000 when serviced good even then they can go good up to early 600,000.
mate all the new shit is just a waste of time and money you will waste 100 grand plus a year in them new hit boxes.
Maybe tame down the swearing, it's a global web Forum, not a remote bush campfire discussion - time and place.

Ditto what DiscoMatt said - Horses for courses, an old 4WD with high mileage may be okay for a second farm vehicle or a trailer queen being taken to rock climbing events, where a few spot welds, dents, structural integrity and unpredictable reliability aren't important, but that's the exception, not the rule.

For a daily driver or remote traveller structural fatigue and the need to replace or rebuild components is always an issue with the unknowns of a 2nd hand vehicle. The benefits of new over old is reflected in reliability, safety, 'power', and creature comforts, especially considering that most 4WD's spend 95% of their time on blacktop going to/from the bush.

I totally agree with your computer and electronics comment, where less = more. But it's almost impossible to skirt that now, so easier to choose a new vehicle with comparatively fewer electronics - arguably only one these days = LC 70 Series. (Maybe the Mahindra?)

I'm not interested in rebuilding a car that has been through the wringer of multiple owners, amateur mechanics/auto electricians, and with an unknown history - used and abused. Just want a new 'clean slate' so I can upgrade it to my needs, knowing it will last me out.
 

Albynsw

Well-Known Member
Maybe tame down the swearing, it's a global web Forum, not a remote bush campfire discussion - time and place.

Ditto what DiscoMatt said - Horses for courses, an old 4WD with high mileage may be okay for a second farm vehicle or a trailer queen being taken to rock climbing events, where a few spot welds, dents, structural integrity and unpredictable reliability aren't important, but that's the exception, not the rule.

For a daily driver or remote traveller structural fatigue and the need to replace or rebuild components is always an issue with the unknowns of a 2nd hand vehicle. The benefits of new over old is reflected in reliability, safety, 'power', and creature comforts, especially considering that most 4WD's spend 95% of their time on blacktop going to/from the bush.

I totally agree with your computer and electronics comment, where less = more. But it's almost impossible to skirt that now, so easier to choose a new vehicle with comparatively fewer electronics - arguably only one these days = LC 70 Series. (Maybe the Mahindra?)

I'm not interested in rebuilding a car that has been through the wringer of multiple owners, amateur mechanics/auto electricians, and with an unknown history - used and abused. Just want a new 'clean slate' so I can upgrade it to my needs, knowing it will last me out.

I love the old vehicles like the 60 series etc but further to what you said you can add that the newer vehicles are more fuel efficient and safer.

If you are handy with the spanners old is easier to work on and tinker with but if you are paying for maintenance and repairs they can quite be expensive to own
 
We bought a 78 series 2003 Troopy, upgraded the mechanicals, added an integrated rooftop conversion (Headspace Campers) and a custom fit out. Just finished travelling around Australia. Loved it! Just listed it for sale on the usual platforms - car sales, caravan camping and just4x4 as well as our website https://haveswagwilltravel.com/troo...adspace-campers-ultimate-4wd-touring-vehicle/ We had no computer errors preventing us from driving, e.g. we have a mechanical fuel pump. It's a straight 6 cylinder diesel, no turbo. We have been told that when a turbo goes you're up for big bucks to repair/replace. Definitely recommend the 1HZ engine.
 

discomatt

Well-Known Member
We bought a 78 series 2003 Troopy, upgraded the mechanicals, added an integrated rooftop conversion (Headspace Campers) and a custom fit out. Just finished travelling around Australia. Loved it! Just listed it for sale on the usual platforms - car sales, caravan camping and just4x4 as well as our website https://haveswagwilltravel.com/troo...adspace-campers-ultimate-4wd-touring-vehicle/ We had no computer errors preventing us from driving, e.g. we have a mechanical fuel pump. It's a straight 6 cylinder diesel, no turbo. We have been told that when a turbo goes you're up for big bucks to repair/replace. Definitely recommend the 1HZ engine.
What a bargain, NOT, tell him he’s dreaming
 
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