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Warby

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56k? I thought I was living in luxury when I had my 14400 modem! Just like pain I think my brain has blocked a fair bit of memory of dial up and I only remember it vaguely. Probably it was all sorted out by the time I could afford one. Back in those days you could buy a pretty good 4wd for the cost of the latest computer system.

edit - yes probably over the top. Lets say a not too bad second hand one. ;)
I think its hard to imagine it being "so terrible" because we simply didn't use the internet like we do now, so the speed wasn't as much of a limiting factor as people who never experienced the joys of dial-up assume it would have been. Online gaming, media streaming, high resolution images on every webpage, etc weren't the norm.

Also, like everything, it was an evolution.. It wasn't like we had 40mbps connections with everything designed and functioning as it does now and then fell back to 14400kbps. We had 14.4.. then got 28.8... 36.. 56.. then ISDN.. then ADSL... Most of the "early adopters" upgraded with the technology, and the usage was tailored accordingly. We got used to bulletin boards, IRC and websites which were primarily text based with maybe one or two low-res images.. then more images.. flash animation.. more images.. downloading music and movies (over multiple days or weeks at times for a single album or movie haha).

I remember playing Counterstrike on dialup against a mate in the US who had a ~10mbps cable connection. That was fun. I would basically be trying to guess where he would be in a few seconds and firing in that direction, get shot in the meantime and repeat.

Edit... just to add, I know that 14.4 wasn't the earliest.. its just what we had when I got internet at home..
 
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discomatt

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As we all know I have called BS on the whole thing all along, yep shut down those who feel they are in critical danger, the old, the sick and the paranoid. The flow on effects of mental health, suicide, life style, welbeing and finances will be far worse than the effects of covid 19 but time will tell and lets wait and see where society is in 1, 2 , 3 and 4 years time
 
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boobook

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So who is Katie Hopkins?

Katie Olivia Hopkins is an English media personality, columnist, social critic, and former businesswoman. She was a contestant on the third series of The Apprentice in 2007, and following further appearances in the media, she became a columnist for British national newspapers.

Oh in that case we should all take notice of her informed opinions. If you are still not convinced of her qualifications, she was on 'Big Brother' too. Luckily we get to read about her on Earth, because she was PERMANENTLY banned from twitter. That must take some doing. Not just your average rant made up bullshit on twitter I suspect.

Nothing like a media personality / social critic to determine how a pandemic should be handled affecting hundreds of lives and billions of dollars.

But on the bright side - she did get a lot of 'hits'.

 
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CTL

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So who is Katie Hopkins?

Katie Olivia Hopkins is an English media personality, columnist, social critic, and former businesswoman. She was a contestant on the third series of The Apprentice in 2007, and following further appearances in the media, she became a columnist for British national newspapers.

Oh in that case we should all take notice of her informed opinions. If you are still not convinced of her qualifications, she was on 'Big Brother' too. Luckily we get to read about her on Earth, because she was PERMANENTLY banned from twitter. That must take some doing. Not just your average rant made up bullshit on twitter I suspect.

Nothing like a media personality / social critic to determine how a pandemic should be handled affecting hundreds of lives and billions of dollars.

But on the bright side - she did get a lot of 'hits'.

Love your work mate. Keep those conspiracy theorists on thier toes
 
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rogerazz

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So who is Katie Hopkins?

Katie Olivia Hopkins is an English media personality, columnist, social critic, and former businesswoman. She was a contestant on the third series of The Apprentice in 2007, and following further appearances in the media, she became a columnist for British national newspapers.

Oh in that case we should all take notice of her informed opinions. If you are still not convinced of her qualifications, she was on 'Big Brother' too. Luckily we get to read about her on Earth, because she was PERMANENTLY banned from twitter. That must take some doing. Not just your average rant made up bullshit on twitter I suspect.

Nothing like a media personality / social critic to determine how a pandemic should be handled affecting hundreds of lives and billions of dollars.

But on the bright side - she did get a lot of 'hits'.

A picture speaks a thousand words. :eek:
 

discomatt

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Just to clarify I don't call BS on covid but the handling of it, if it is so bad why is it that the people handling the hotel quarantine was contracted to those with NFI on medical lock downs and not trained persional, why were we not totally locked down 3 months ago to eliminate it from Australia as NZ has done?
Our premier says he takes full responsibility for it all but will not be held accountable for his massive screw ups, the whole handling of the whole thing in Victoria is laughable as was the F wits that let it get of the Ruby Princess in NSW.
After the flog let the whole thing get out of hand in the original outbreaks in Cedar meats after seeing how it spreads in abattoirs overseas he only now decides to reduce working numbers in high risk work environments.
Like I said its all BS
 

Choook

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So who is Katie Hopkins?

Katie Olivia Hopkins is an English media personality, columnist, social critic, and former businesswoman. She was a contestant on the third series of The Apprentice in 2007, and following further appearances in the media, she became a columnist for British national newspapers.

Oh in that case we should all take notice of her informed opinions. If you are still not convinced of her qualifications, she was on 'Big Brother' too. Luckily we get to read about her on Earth, because she was PERMANENTLY banned from twitter. That must take some doing. Not just your average rant made up bullshit on twitter I suspect.

Nothing like a media personality / social critic to determine how a pandemic should be handled affecting hundreds of lives and billions of dollars.

But on the bright side - she did get a lot of 'hits'.

Withheld the fact she had epilepsy when she attended the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst..... hmmm... Not the trustworthy type I would have wanted to serve with or (as she would have become a Commissioned Officer) under.
 

dno67

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I'm not remotely intersted in who's saying it, more whats being said, back to rona.
Sort of. Iol
Removing something thats not necessarily true or right, dose little to educate or facilitate constructive evolution of a discussion or argument.
I only see it as censorship.
 

Gidgee

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Just wanted to say regardless of anything I'm feeling very sorry for the Vics at this time. Fingers crossed there is a quick turn around and you can get normal lives back and go bush. It's not fair and it's hard to look on the bright side, but ya gotta stay positive. Bugger me, I woulda made a great psykolojist eh?
 

boobook

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Yep and I guess you are happy with twitter and facebook deciding what we can and can not see, yeah screw that...
If you don't like their policies, don't use them. Simple. No one forces anyone to read that tripe.

Sorry Matt. I honestly don't care about them. But people seem to believe that crap.
 
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rogerazz

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I do feel so lucky. No sorry, I feel like that Twitter, Facebook, whatever does not rule my thinking or my knowledge.
My knowledge comes from living and sharing personally with many people over many decades. I also have listened and learned from people who lived back in the early nineteen hundreds. Nothing like getting it from the horses mouth, not like people today who get it from google, etc. etc. and believe the bulls*it and then reckon they know it all.
All they can do is quote stuff that anyone can make up and then believe it. :eek:.
I would add, that some if not all of the smartest, knowledgeable people I have ever met don't have titles, degrees, friends in high places, whatever and don't make it in my eyes. However the ones I believe in and have met are the most down to earth, hard working, honest, respectful, reliable, people who have ever lived.
 
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discomatt

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If you don't like their policies, don't use them. Simple. No one forces anyone to read that tripe.

Sorry Matt. I honestly don't care about them. But people seem to believe that crap.
And I am not active , use , read or have accounts on any of them either but that is not the point....
 

boobook

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Sorry Matt, I wasn't pointing at you, just a general statement.

My point is that those platforms are 99% gossip, opinion, speculation and promotion / add revenue drivers. Much of it is just rubbish or personal promotion. They're not news platforms and have no quality control. A lot of stuff is taken down because it is harmful, a lie or designed to manipulate, which apparently works very very well. I think that the owners of the platforms have an obligation to take that shit off, and every person who signs up agrees that the owner of the social media platform has the right to remove anything. Stuff is removed all the time because it is worthless, harmful bull.

If you want NEWS instead, the more traditional outlets have some filters, and quality control and stuff is not removed frequently because it went through some kind of vetting process to there in the first place. It may be biased but unlike twitter etc it has some factual basis and is not removed willy nilly.
If these wacko promotors of anti vax, 5G conspiracies, anti-mask ( and 1000 other loonie conspiracies) etc have an important message that is not made up, then they have legitimate avenues to argue them that would be subject to scrutiny at the time of publishing, or if they like, they can start their own webpage where they are the author, editorial control and have total control on what is printed and what is deleted, that way no one can take them down unless they really go over the top - which they often do.

There is no restriction of freedom of publishing on this stuff. But there are terms of use on twitter etc. If these people don't like it, they should go elsewhere to infect the world with their bullshit.

:)

Peter sums it up perfectly.

At least in the days before the internet the bloke down the pub had an excuse for a bit of embellishment and poetic licence.
 

dno67

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Anybody curious about the possitive numbers and how there being reported ?
I believe both chanel 9 and seven are going to be doing stories on this subject in the future.
Being in a high risk category, lm all for airing on the side of caution. But there's some pretty wild stories out there about accident victims waking up after 2 or three days in a covid19 ward then being asked to test, which them means they have to stay in that ward until the test results come back. I find this concerning ether way.
 

boobook

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Yeah, it came out yesterday that Victoria has deliberately been withholding the tracing information and case links from the other states and the Feds that would have capped the transfer of cases interstate, despite the national cabinet agreement that all states would be completely transparent. The new Victorian deputy medical guy that replaced Van Diemen last Friday accidentally let the cat out of the bag at his first meeting. Doh! Obviously not briefed to say "I know nothing" by Dan. Brendon Murphy is apparently very pissed off.

Has anyone else noticed that Victoria has a new Deputy Chief Health Officer - Allen Cheng? Interestingly Van Diemen resigned on Friday because she was interested in working on "non-Covid issues and other viruses such as herpes", and not the single most important thing affecting the world right now. Seriously?

It might be time for another deputy Medical person in Vic. Not a secure job. I suspect this one will have a newfound interest in the effect of Covid 19 on earwigs or something.

The only certain thing with this whole worldwide COVID crisis is that a new Victorian Government screw up or cover up will come out every day without fail.
 
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dno67

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Seems like the states on fire and the mob in charge are passing the marshmallows around, while we're left caged in the dark and our livelihoods are being used to feed the fire. So yes, lm interested in the numbers and what the end games going to be. Returning to what ? and under what conditions ?

And to top it all off, its the mob in charge thats caused this.
Wasted a whole day trying to get through via phone for some clarification on issues, hour on hold to hear its a 6 hour wait for a call to be answered, suppose theres no urgency given there working on a 6 week time frame.
 
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