Corona virus

CTL

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Chatting to a mate today.
He is a radiographer at a large public hospital in Qld. To do a chest xray on a suspected/confirmed Covid patient, takes an hour. Getting dressed in full PPE and then sanitising afterwards.
He is very concerned about the stress on the hospitals when Qld opens up and the Delta strain takes hold in Qld (which it will without any doubt). He said so many other patients will miss out on urgent, and maybe even life threatening, medical assistance due to the extra work load created by unvaccinated people being infected with covid. He says it may not happen in SE corner but reckons hospitals further north and west will be overwhelmed.
 

Corndoggy

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A family friend has been a surgical theatre nurse for years here in Vic. Surgery has been put on hold for a lot and she has been redeployed into another area. She has not practiced "nursing" as such being fully time surgical. Of all places they have put her into emergency. A big relearning curve going to happen, never mind the effects of covid stress.
 

discomatt

Moderator
A story on how stupid some are, we all know people have varying views on the whole covid thing but some are just plain stupid.
A care staff member ( not a qualified nurse a care provider known as a carer in the industry) in a aged care facility had 2 days off due to feeling slightly unwell, day 3 she feels fine, couldn't be covid she thinks, that makes you sick not just slightly off for 2 days so she goes to work without being tested and waiting for the result. Even worse, management didn't insist on a negative test result before returning to work
At work she has a covid test as at this facility in is compulsory for every staff member to test at least once every week. She had the test Saturday, Monday comes back positive, the whole facility is locked down, every staff member that worked that day is gone for 14 days.
End result a week later, still massive staff shortages, staff that are working have put the rest of their lives on hold and working flat out ( no extra pay of coarse ) residents are all locked in their rooms going insane and becoming extremely abusive toward staff demanding they are let out because what is the point in being vaccinated if we are still treated like disease ridden rats that are kept in a cage. Most residents fully vaccinated, a few refused, all staff vaccinated several have left due to not wanting the shots
Not one positive case to come out so far
 

boobook

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Most residents fully vaccinated, a few refused, all staff vaccinated several have left due to not wanting the shots
Not one positive case to come out so far


If that doesn't ring alarm bells in people's heads why vaccination is a requirement in the work place then nothing does. Imagine if there were still lots of unvaccinated staff still there.

A disaster averted by workplace vaccination.

Have you changed your views Matt?
 

discomatt

Moderator
Have you changed your views Matt?
Not at all, still think mandatory vaccination is wrong and immoral
What I do think is we need to forget case numbers and get on with life with an end to restrictions for every person in Australia, people have had long enough to make an informed decision on what is the best way forward for them with the choices available.
Maybe if Novavax had been available earlier we would be in a much better position due to many preferring a much safer option than the current vaccine choices
 

cam04

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Not at all, still think mandatory vaccination is wrong and immoral
What I do think is we need to forget case numbers and get on with life with an end to restrictions for every person in Australia, people have had long enough to make an informed decision on what is the best way forward for them with the choices available.
Maybe if Novavax had been available earlier we would be in a much better position due to many preferring a much safer option than the current vaccine choices
Wow, maybe if bats on sticks didn’t taste like KFC……..what a ridiculous statement.
We are nearly at 85% vax, no thanks to people like you. Your chance to get as much covid as you like is coming very soon - be patient while the rest of us facilitate it for you.
 

Kippie

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Not at all, still think mandatory vaccination is wrong and immoral
What I do think is we need to forget case numbers and get on with life with an end to restrictions for every person in Australia, people have had long enough to make an informed decision on what is the best way forward for them with the choices available.
Maybe if Novavax had been available earlier we would be in a much better position due to many preferring a much safer option than the current vaccine choices
If only we had rapid testing, if only we had alternative vaccines, if only we had no lockdowns, if only we had no vaccine mandates, if only we all had choices we liked, if only we had well ventilated buildings, if only .......

Sounds familiar? It's been your story all along. If only you came up with a decent alternative rather than blaming everyone else.
 

boobook

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If only we had rapid testing, if only we had alternative vaccines, if only we had no lockdowns, if only we had no vaccine mandates, if only we all had choices we liked, if only we had well ventilated buildings, if only .......

Sounds familiar? It's been your story all along. If only you came up with a decent alternative rather than blaming everyone else.

I can add one to that.

If only we didn't have unqualified people who think they know more than epidemiologists and doctors spreading bullshit and undermining people's health and rebuilding of our society.
 

Mick_Marsh

Active Member
Chatting to a mate today.
He is a radiographer at a large public hospital in Qld. To do a chest xray on a suspected/confirmed Covid patient, takes an hour. Getting dressed in full PPE and then sanitising afterwards.
He is very concerned about the stress on the hospitals when Qld opens up and the Delta strain takes hold in Qld (which it will without any doubt). He said so many other patients will miss out on urgent, and maybe even life threatening, medical assistance due to the extra work load created by unvaccinated people being infected with covid. He says it may not happen in SE corner but reckons hospitals further north and west will be overwhelmed.
And the vaccinated people infected with COVID as well.
 
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Mick_Marsh

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A story on how stupid some are, we all know people have varying views on the whole covid thing but some are just plain stupid.
A care staff member ( not a qualified nurse a care provider known as a carer in the industry) in a aged care facility had 2 days off due to feeling slightly unwell, day 3 she feels fine, couldn't be covid she thinks, that makes you sick not just slightly off for 2 days so she goes to work without being tested and waiting for the result. Even worse, management didn't insist on a negative test result before returning to work
At work she has a covid test as at this facility in is compulsory for every staff member to test at least once every week. She had the test Saturday, Monday comes back positive, the whole facility is locked down, every staff member that worked that day is gone for 14 days.
End result a week later, still massive staff shortages, staff that are working have put the rest of their lives on hold and working flat out ( no extra pay of coarse ) residents are all locked in their rooms going insane and becoming extremely abusive toward staff demanding they are let out because what is the point in being vaccinated if we are still treated like disease ridden rats that are kept in a cage. Most residents fully vaccinated, a few refused, all staff vaccinated several have left due to not wanting the shots
Not one positive case to come out so far
So, was this nurse who felt unwell vaccinated?
 

rogerazz

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Generally speaking and from Data around the world especially in Australia. more especially in NSW and VIC.
More vaccinations = less serious illnesses, less hospital cases and most important = open up and go for it.
No Guarantees if or when, or how sick, or if vaccinated ,or not for the individual.
However one thing for sure, it's gonna be a pain for the un vaccinated. Bit like the scarlet pimpernel trying to get in somewhere. You see him here you see him there.
Unfortunately, like it or not, it will be tough for maybe 15% of the population, less very small kids and babies etc. so maybe 10%.
About time the vaccinated got a bit of a go.
 
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Mick_Marsh

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Yes, I'd be more fearful of infected vaccinated people with the virus than unvaccinated.
There is a greater chance a vaccinated infected person can unknowingly spread it than an unvaccinated person can unknowingly spread it because a vaccinated person can display no symptoms.
As your example demonstrates.
 

discomatt

Moderator
And now another vaccinated nurse has tested positive, not many details yet but I am sure the emails will start flowing as soon as the health department establish all the facts.
Apparently the residents with dementia are becoming a real handful which is no surprise
 

Albynsw

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Yes, I'd be more fearful of infected vaccinated people with the virus than unvaccinated.
There is a greater chance a vaccinated infected person can unknowingly spread it than an unvaccinated person can unknowingly spread it because a vaccinated person can display no symptoms.
As your example demonstrates.

o_O o_Oo_O Assume you are just taking the piss??

A vaccinated infected person has only a 10% chance of passing the virus on and also their infectious period is greatly reduced. My vaccinated sister in law just had Covid and no other vaccinated member of the family caught it
 

rogerazz

4x4 Earth Contributer
Yes, I'd be more fearful of infected vaccinated people with the virus than unvaccinated.
There is a greater chance a vaccinated infected person can unknowingly spread it than an unvaccinated person can unknowingly spread it because a vaccinated person can display no symptoms.
As your example demonstrates.
I personally know a couple and their three teenagers who had their first Vax. All very sick and wife got home from ICU and now has long covid ( breathing problems and now has pneumonia). Yeah and the pain they suffered and she is still suffering is real bad.
Also know an unvaccinated person who got it on a building site and took it home to his missus and three kiddies two weeks ago.
Also know a workmate of my other son in law who got it and everyone knows about all of this sh*t.
Where do you come up with this crap?
Fair dinkum.
 

boobook

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And now another vaccinated nurse has tested positive, not many details yet but I am sure the emails will start flowing as soon as the health department establish all the facts.
Apparently the residents with dementia are becoming a real handful which is no surprise


All healthcare workers had to be vaccinated by Oct 15th or left for another job resulting from their own freedom of choice.

So I guess by definition all healthcare workers who get covid will be vaccinated. Lucky the unvaccinated have gone from the system, or there would be a lot more of these unfortunate stories.
 
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discomatt

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All healthcare workers had to be vaccinated by Oct 15th or left for another job resulting from their own freedom of choice.

So I guess by definition all healthcare workers who get covid will be vaccinated. Lucky the unvaccinated have gone from the system, or there would be a lot more of these unfortunate stories.
The only unfortunate thing about the story is the stress on the staff and worse the fact that the residents are locked in their room indefinitely, nothing to do with covid now, everything to do with the reaction to it
 
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