Climate Change - Biggest Money Making Con of the Century or Imminent Extinction of the Human Race

Choook

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We're all brainwashed in one way or another. Neither side of the argument is exempt from it. The true indisputable fact is there are too many people. The more people you cram into anywhere, the worse it becomes, full stop. The environment is getting worse, we're soaking up water like a sponge, deforesting large parts of globally important ecosystems and polluting the oceans at an alarming rate. I don't care about warming or cooling, the environment will react to the pressures that billions of people put on it. My opinion is you can reduce your emissions and we'll still kill the place. We have to reduce the amount of people. The aboriginals were smart enough to do it for thousands of years. Barbaric and unpalatable really, but nature will do it for us.

This has been my argument all along. Too many damn people! Still think we need a major pandemic to level things out.

Imagine if you will reducing the global population rapidly from the current 7+billion to, let's say about half, 3.5 billion. What would that do for not just the environment but the global economy. Now, I'm no economist, scientist, physicist or any kind of academic but a few things I think would happen are:

1. Everyone remaining would have a job.
2. The cost of housing would plummet because there would be such an excess that everyone left would be able to have a roof over their head and there would still be a mass of vacant dwellings.
3. The cost of food and fuel would increase initially due to down turn in supply.
4. Goverments would have to become less corrupt because with less voters the chances of swinging the numbers their way deminishes.
5. Oppurtunities for entrepreneurial endeavours would abound.

Then again we would probably be in the midst of martial law.

I may be right or I may be wrong, I don't really care and I'm sure this speculative list could be expanded ad infinitum.

The fact remains. Too many damn people!!

Just another 2c from me.
 

mikehzz

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This has been my argument all along. Too many damn people! Still think we need a major pandemic to level things out.

Imagine if you will reducing the global population rapidly from the current 7+billion to, let's say about half, 3.5 billion. What would that do for not just the environment but the global economy. Now, I'm no economist, scientist, physicist or any kind of academic but a few things I think would happen are:

1. Everyone remaining would have a job.
2. The cost of housing would plummet because there would be such an excess that everyone left would be able to have a roof over their head and there would still be a mass of vacant dwellings.
3. The cost of food and fuel would increase initially due to down turn in supply.
4. Goverments would have to become less corrupt because with less voters the chances of swinging the numbers their way deminishes.
5. Oppurtunities for entrepreneurial endeavours would abound.

Then again we would probably be in the midst of martial law.

I may be right or I may be wrong, I don't really care and I'm sure this speculative list could be expanded ad infinitum.

The fact remains. Too many damn people!!

Just another 2c from me.

There's a serious flaw in our economic system, it demands growth to increase profits. The only real way to do that is to have more people spending, it's why they encourage immigration when we aren't breeding enough. The pigs with their snout in the trough are continually pushing for more, they're never content with a balance.
 

discomatt

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There's a serious flaw in our economic system, it demands growth to increase profits. The only real way to do that is to have more people spending, it's why they encourage immigration when we aren't breeding enough. The pigs with their snout in the trough are continually pushing for more, they're never content with a balance.
And this is exactly why eventually the whole western society thing will fall in a heap, all great civilizations have and will come to an end.
To think ours won't is pretty nuts IMO
 

dno67

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There's a serious flaw in our economic system, it demands growth to increase profits. The only real way to do that is to have more people spending, it's why they encourage immigration when we aren't breeding enough. The pigs with their snout in the trough are continually pushing for more, they're never content with a balance.
Modern government.
Fuelled by, consumption, growth, and greed.
Hiding behind, broken promises and lies.
It's just one big dodgy business, rapeing revenue to support its self.
 

Drewswb

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Nature has a way of culling the herd from time to time Spanish flue wiped out 1/5 of the population 50 million. Now with the world population at almost 8b nature its really going to have to step it up maybe the climate change thing is it ( I really hope for Zombies )
 

mikehzz

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My observations, generally, less people are dying in bushfires probably because of better communications. Back in 2013 when the fires went over the top of my place, I had multiple automated phone calls and texts telling me to evacuate. Two hundred house lost and no casualties. I wonder how successful they would be fighting today's fires with yesterday's equipment and techniques and vice versa. I do know there was a bunch of very worried fire chiefs in the news lately, all of them veterans, all of them saying what's happening is unprecedented and they say nobody is taking them seriously.
 

Drewswb

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My observations, generally, less people are dying in bushfires probably because of better communications. Back in 2013 when the fires went over the top of my place, I had multiple automated phone calls and texts telling me to evacuate. Two hundred house lost and no casualties. I wonder how successful they would be fighting today's fires with yesterday's equipment and techniques and vice versa. I do know there was a bunch of very worried fire chiefs in the news lately, all of them veterans, all of them saying what's happening is unprecedented and they say nobody is taking them seriously.
We do have an astonishing amount of former fire chief's saying that but the big question is what did they put in place when they were in control. When we got hit in the Pinary fire's it was say turned to a battery radio and all the radio did was direct you to a website. That was supposed to be fixed it hasn't been. Everyone is saying call in the Army the army has offered to fix their comms numerous times declined every time. The guys on the ground do a fantastic job the guys running the rock show with a modicum of power not so much
 

dno67

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Reality check, in isle 5 please.
 

dno67

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There seems to be a disproportionate amount of media reporting coming from the ABC about the fires and morphing the story into a climate change one
Sensationalism, is all there got to draw a crowd. Social & multimedia, with the advent of mobile phones with cameras and video and the internet have pretty much killed daily news. All else fails, try hysteria.
 
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Bomber2012

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Nobody does “fake news” better than channel 10’s The Project. What a disgrace that program is, do gooder pack of flogs polluting the youth. Hysteria and out and out BS at its best .
 

dno67

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Nobody does “fake news” better than channel 10’s The Project. What a disgrace that program is, do gooder pack of flogs polluting the youth. Hysteria and out and out BS at its best .
I'd like to agree, but l only watch 7 so can't comment. Iol
 
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