CARP_NSW can be returned to the water

[Bomber2012]

Pretty simplistic way of looking at it. I've read multiple times that carp eggs can remain viable for extended periods even after decaying has started. I agree with you, dispose of them properly, as it is actually illegal to dispose of them on the bank, aka littering. But either way, there is not a chance in hell any carp I caught would go back in the water, or be left anywhere near the water. And I do understand we will probably never be rid of them in our waterways.

Ive heard the same with the eggs .

 

[Blue_haired_man]

In sa it is illegal to put a carp back dead or alive or even partial, I believe because of the eggs...

I hit them with a fire axe into rough fillets and then use them as crab bait...nothing brings the blueys in like a bit of arp

I heard all this crap came about when some do gooder threatened to sue over a fine for releasing carp back into the water. I can't remember the exact details but apparently no one can be forced to kill an animal so the law was changed.

 

[Chatty]

I heard all this crap came about when some do gooder threatened to sue over a fine for releasing carp back into the water. I can't remember the exact details but apparently no one can be forced to kill an animal so the law was changed.

Last time I looked it's illegal to return carp dead or alive to the water in Vic and SA. Apparently it is legal to return them in NSW and ACT.
Given that the Murray is in either Victoria (to the high water mark on the NSW side) or in SA that would make it illegal to return carp to the Murray at least.

 

[GaryM]

Chatty, its always been NSW control the waters, Vic only the bank on its side. I think you have it backwards.

Id much prefer the stink than give up on attempts to control carp. Its not that we can beat carp now, but we can try in any little way, to assist the indigenous critters to survive until a means to eradicate or severely control them is found. Eggs, and more over, people will just toss them back live, and argue they didnt realise it was still alive. People try hard to talk their way out of tickets, so the law tends to remove the escape. That is, no release, dead or alive. If NSW are allowing it, that ought to be changed. Dont want to kill a fish, dont go fishing.

Its not ideal, but I think its misguided to start undermining what little control measures we have.

 

[Deleted member 69390]

Yes the Murray River is in NSW - none of it is in Vic.

 

[Chatty]

Ok then - trust NSW to screw up our beautiful Murray!

 

[phs]

NSW fishieres allowing them to be released is the dumbest thing to date since they introduced them

 

[boobook]

Handled properly Carp tastes quite nice. Put it on ice as soon as you catch it. Then you don't get that muddy taste which is histamines, not mud...

 

[Bomber2012]

Ive heard leaving dead carp on the bank leads to fox/feral dog/feral cat numbers climbing due to a food source .
What happened with the disease that removed carp from Japanese waterways that was to be released here ?

 

[peterfermtech]

After anaesthetising I like to bake them whole over a hot redgum charcoal fire. Unfortunately I've never been able to get my timing right and always overdo them.
regards

 

[Toddyh]

What happened with the disease that removed carp from Japanese waterways that was to be released here ?

It's a form of herpes still being tested last I heard.

 

[cam04]

Carp spawn under specific circumstances, usually when water levels are rising. Males fertilise the females and then they lay their eggs almost immediately. They also don't eat during this time so there would be a microscopic chance that a human could catch and release a carp with viable eggs, much less kill it and then have it reproduce. Mouth brooders such as Tilapia lay fertilised eggs then carry them in their mouths for weeks until they hatch, then carry the fry for another few weeks in their mouths until they can survive on their own. Those noxious bastards of things should never be returned to the water dead or alive. Redclaw are also deemed noxious and it is an offence to put them back in the water in QLD at least. I hope this helps.

 

[Swaggie]

I cannot see any good whatsoever returning this feral pest back into any waterway period...

 

[Batts88]

People are their own worst enemy and will be whinging to no extent when all the work done to help reduce their numbers over the yrs is reversed because of lazy fisherman. I was told by one of my uncles who lives in Gundagai back in 1990 that he and his mates always took a shovel with them when fishing to bury unwanted carp so I done the same thing it's not difficult. Back in the 90's in a freshwater fishing mag they wrote it is a $2,000 fine for releasing or introducing carp into the waterways. I have tried eating them once before from the upper reaches of the Hunter river and their not to bad to eat if the water is reasonably clear and not silted right up but only the small ones. I did try one that weighed 8 lb out of interest and it was terrible.

 

[Bomber2012]

Get stuck in

 

[GaryM]

Someone already posted the same information but its worth repeating...

He says freshly caught carp need to come straight out of the water and go onto ice immediately.

"If that isn't adhered to that's where that muddy taste comes from. The muddy taste is actually the histamines within the fish. As the body temperature rises through stress the histamine levels get going, it gets into the capillaries of the flesh and 'hey presto' you've got that muddy taste.

"So when we catch fish now the fish go straight out of the water and straight into ice slurry. Keeping that body temperature down is the most critical part. What that does is it also takes the blood from over the rib cage and over the shoulders and puts it into the bloodline which is the bit with all the bones in it, and that's the bit that we don't eat."

 

[Toddyh]

Update on carp herpes. Apparently they are in the final 6 months of testing and it should be released within 2 years. This will depend on appropriate flows among other things. But there's light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Chatty]

What's the difference between Herpes and true love?


Herpes is for life...

 

[jacnden]

Get stuck in

Interesting video
Now I've never eaten them but I've read old stories that in Eastern European villages they were kept in barrels of clean water and fattened up on veges and served up at Xmas. Maybe it's the muddy streams that cause a problem?

Mates of my old dad who have all gone now used to say when reddies first appeared into the Riverina they would throw them away and thought they were crap? I would be glad to catch a nice reddie now

 

[Albynsw]

Update on carp herpes. Apparently they are in the final 6 months of testing and it should be released within 2 years. This will depend on appropriate flows among other things. But there's light at the end of the tunnel.

All sounds great but those “scientists “ type worry me, they have stuffed up our flora and fauna a number of times with their introduction and meddling in species thinking they know what they are doing
Will the rivers turn sour with the huge numbers of dead carp in them?