You are covered for damage etc. If you crash head on out there then most companies will repair the damage but how far out they'll tow the car is in question.
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Albynsw
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For clarity I should of said Roadside assistance in case readers thought I meant comprehensive insurance. Mike I have never thought about the insurance side of things for recovery but I would assume they would pay to recover it from anywhere, it is no more complex than recovery from say a river etc or over a cliff??
Choook
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Won't get up to pee in her own home because of the dingos......please.
Someone has been talking to a lawyer and is looking for compensation.
These days it is always someone elses fault, nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions.
Maybe it's the governments fault, they want to take over all responsibility don't they?
We can't say this or do that anymore.....yeah,....that's it, it's the governments fault.
Someone has been talking to a lawyer and is looking for compensation.
These days it is always someone elses fault, nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions.
Maybe it's the governments fault, they want to take over all responsibility don't they?
We can't say this or do that anymore.....yeah,....that's it, it's the governments fault.
Yeah, I've read that in terms too, but it's got a kilometre limit on it too dependent in the nearest repair depot.
Rhett HS
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I am pretty sure on mt dare's advertising brochure they say that if they dont get there in 2 days, and dont get you out in 2 days, the recovery is free, plus they will give you a gift voucher for a weeks stay in a resort of your own choice.
shanegtr
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End of the day, if the broken down family had comms that where working clearly and correctly, they would have been able to relay the message that they where stuck, only had X amount of food and water. If Mt dare had that info from the start and they knew that they could not perform a recovery within the time frame of the supply of food and water of the people broken down then they should have referred them onto Birdsvillie.
phs
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I think this has been touched on and they would rather leave the family stranded to fend off the dingos than loose the $$$
Rhett HS
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Possibly by the time mt dare realised their vehicle(s) werent going to be in the picture, the solution they came up with may have taken no longer than calling in birdsville.
Its also possible that the customer lack of funds issue delayed preparations and hence delayed the recovery. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Its also possible that the customer lack of funds issue delayed preparations and hence delayed the recovery. Money talks, bullshit walks.
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Chatty
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Quite correct Matt - that's why I always split my water across multiple storages.
It sounds like their main water storage either wasn't a good tank and/or it was badly located.
Exactly. It's the French line, not the Rubicon way after all.
Rhett HS
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When i took a group of seven people and two 4wd's across the simpson during a fairly busy period i allocated 6L/person/day x 6 days.
Calculated for six people that would be 216L.
We planned to take six days. I dont know why people go that far to rush through in four days unless you are solo. We used less than half of the water.
Calculated for six people that would be 216L.
We planned to take six days. I dont know why people go that far to rush through in four days unless you are solo. We used less than half of the water.
Chatty
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Fully with you on the lack of need to rush the trip.
I would rather take half my water out with me than risk running out...
patrolgu4
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This was unfortunate event which was compounded by badly planned and executed action on all sides of the coin.
I was made aware that in the past one could hire a sat phone in Mt Dare for the desert crossing, is that not a case anymore?
When I done Simmo crossing 5 years ago we traveled with companions, had the sat phone on us which we actually used to call for help for someone else stuck with broken chassis about 75 kays from Birdsville.
Anyway what we encountered was even more astounding, we came across 2 French families (no pun intended they could barely communicate in English as well) with small kids (on separate occasions) in their hired Troppies with no sand flags, no radios of any kind and these people were plain and simple lucky. This was in middle of the season so technically it was a freeway out there with so many vehicles and tourists it was a disappointment for me at least....
The lesson here is that in both cases Mt Dare and Birdsville recovery services are sketchy, on the shoe string backyarders/amateurish operations budgets and indeed a last resort.
The family biggest mistake was that they had no means of clear communications with emergency providers. They were not really alone and there was enough support from fellow travellers which got them through.
What really needs to be looked at and seriously indeed for the authorities, motoring clubs, tourist organizations and insurance companies how to improve the recovery services in the area by either providing contractual type deals hence injecting necessary funds and also improve or indeed create a system of checks and balances in regards to all visitors to the area.
South Australian/Queensland governments should be kicked in their back ends for happily taking the fees for access but providing nothing in return, perhaps compulsory vehicle recovery insurance at the point of entry as well as a roll call of people and vehicles in the desert at any given time, perhaps attaching removable GPS trackers with unique IDs.
Ultimately relying on good will of overworked private operators with questionable equipment is a disaster waiting to happen. But then just look at the funding of emergency services in capital cities to see that the governments of all persuasion are happy to take the money but provide bare minimum.
It is beyond the joke that someone can be left in the life/death situation 270 km from nearest town cause of friggin $$$$!
I was made aware that in the past one could hire a sat phone in Mt Dare for the desert crossing, is that not a case anymore?
When I done Simmo crossing 5 years ago we traveled with companions, had the sat phone on us which we actually used to call for help for someone else stuck with broken chassis about 75 kays from Birdsville.
Anyway what we encountered was even more astounding, we came across 2 French families (no pun intended they could barely communicate in English as well) with small kids (on separate occasions) in their hired Troppies with no sand flags, no radios of any kind and these people were plain and simple lucky. This was in middle of the season so technically it was a freeway out there with so many vehicles and tourists it was a disappointment for me at least....
The lesson here is that in both cases Mt Dare and Birdsville recovery services are sketchy, on the shoe string backyarders/amateurish operations budgets and indeed a last resort.
The family biggest mistake was that they had no means of clear communications with emergency providers. They were not really alone and there was enough support from fellow travellers which got them through.
What really needs to be looked at and seriously indeed for the authorities, motoring clubs, tourist organizations and insurance companies how to improve the recovery services in the area by either providing contractual type deals hence injecting necessary funds and also improve or indeed create a system of checks and balances in regards to all visitors to the area.
South Australian/Queensland governments should be kicked in their back ends for happily taking the fees for access but providing nothing in return, perhaps compulsory vehicle recovery insurance at the point of entry as well as a roll call of people and vehicles in the desert at any given time, perhaps attaching removable GPS trackers with unique IDs.
Ultimately relying on good will of overworked private operators with questionable equipment is a disaster waiting to happen. But then just look at the funding of emergency services in capital cities to see that the governments of all persuasion are happy to take the money but provide bare minimum.
It is beyond the joke that someone can be left in the life/death situation 270 km from nearest town cause of friggin $$$$!
Albynsw
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Yeah I don’t know about that, that sounds like a nanny state type response to me.
This is not a picnic in the National Park type scenario it is remote outback travel and needs to be reiterated as such. The problem we have now is that 4WD’s are more popular than ever and we have every man and his dog in the media promoting these types of treks and they don’t get given the respect they deserve.
The current system works fine, the travelers need to be better prepared not the authorities playing wet nurse to the idiots