Wow...a Fajero! Mike, maybe some shocks with adjustable remote reservoirs to help dissipate the heat? You may also need airbags if it's sagging in the bum loaded up? I remember my Pajero over corrugations the dash would bounce around like crazy. I found you'd need to pick up the speed so it would kind of skip across the peaks. Ultimate suspension as mentioned previously would be a good choice to see.
Best suspension for corrugations?
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Bingle
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Hi Mate
Would you recommend the TJM suspension? Just looking at getting a lift on my hilux...
Cheers
Trophy truck 481
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it's all to do with the quality of the shocks
most shocks have the oil & gas together, that get's hot and aerates and goes off, they do come back after they cool down but loose a bit
then there are the shocks that have the canisters, that separate the oil & gas
problem is the cheap ones are copies of the good ones, but charge too much
the good ones are very pricey because the poor $ and the freight involved
i have raced on King Shocks for 10yrs ( have been a King Shock dealer for 15yrs)
I've put them on 200 series and those owners have fitted them on their 2nd 200 series
at just over $5k they are an investment but a once only , they are rebuild-able and every part is available
i have done 140k on mine, yes the shafts have been knocked around , but they still dont leak (and they are adjustable)
after seeing inside the Dobinson MR shocks , i will never sell anther set after both sets failed
the hardest part is working out what your doing with the car
if you set it up to be packed and go remote touring, when you remove all the gear the car is hard as a rock
if you set it up for driving around when you pack it it's too soft and bottoms out and is low
i went with a raised spring and fitted airbags and then good shocks so i can add air when i need and can let it out when i dont
lots of home work is the key
buying expensive is hard on the pocket ( but you only do it once)
buying cheap is half as hard on the pocket , but you will have to change them as they still have a life of around 60 to 80k anyway
but at least you can change to something else that might feel better for the first bit
i you need help with the King shock give me a yell
most shocks have the oil & gas together, that get's hot and aerates and goes off, they do come back after they cool down but loose a bit
then there are the shocks that have the canisters, that separate the oil & gas
problem is the cheap ones are copies of the good ones, but charge too much
the good ones are very pricey because the poor $ and the freight involved
i have raced on King Shocks for 10yrs ( have been a King Shock dealer for 15yrs)
I've put them on 200 series and those owners have fitted them on their 2nd 200 series
at just over $5k they are an investment but a once only , they are rebuild-able and every part is available
i have done 140k on mine, yes the shafts have been knocked around , but they still dont leak (and they are adjustable)
after seeing inside the Dobinson MR shocks , i will never sell anther set after both sets failed
the hardest part is working out what your doing with the car
if you set it up to be packed and go remote touring, when you remove all the gear the car is hard as a rock
if you set it up for driving around when you pack it it's too soft and bottoms out and is low
i went with a raised spring and fitted airbags and then good shocks so i can add air when i need and can let it out when i dont
lots of home work is the key
buying expensive is hard on the pocket ( but you only do it once)
buying cheap is half as hard on the pocket , but you will have to change them as they still have a life of around 60 to 80k anyway
but at least you can change to something else that might feel better for the first bit
i you need help with the King shock give me a yell
sharkcaver
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You haven't hit corrugations till the dash jumps enough to either turn your wipers or blinkers on....automatically
Stuffing a tissue in the stalk fixes that
Trophy Truck said:
After having all the shitty and silly failures I had with the MRR's, and their now non existent customer service, I will never buy another set. Such a shame, because they worked so well controlling temperature in the rough.
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Kippie
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I'm happy with them. I have the standard setup (up to 300kg constant load) and run them with STmaxx. Pressure at front 29 and rear 35 psi with an estimated load including fuel and water of 300-400 kg. Currently touring outback NSW. The system handles corrugations really smoothly and the shocks don't get hot even after a whole day of corrugations ( I measure the temps during every stop). The rear leaf springs squeak a bit when there's a lot of articulation, but it's easily fixed with WD40. So yeah, I do recommend them.
Vesko
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Hey Mike, did you finish "the unfinished business"? Very interested to know.
Vesko
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Speaking of a bumpy ride, a couple of weeks ago I hired a single cab Hilux. I didn't have to go off road, nowhere near Sturt Stony Desert to feel the difference. Just 300 km on the tarmac was enough - the bloody thing managed to give me low back/neck pain and a terrible headache.
Apologies to all the Hilux drivers out there, but I cannot understand the brave stoicism and masochistic inclination needed to enjoy such a vehicle. The question is: do all utes drive bumpy the same?
Apologies to all the Hilux drivers out there, but I cannot understand the brave stoicism and masochistic inclination needed to enjoy such a vehicle. The question is: do all utes drive bumpy the same?
Kippie
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No, try an Amarok.
Rhett HS
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My amarok in std form didnt give me any aches or pains, but it rode pretty bad for a modern vehicle comparing it against all forms of 4wd. The front shocks are too soft, the front swaybar too stiff, the rear leaves are two stage but the second stage is already engaged at std ride height. I was dodging manhole covers, and cursing on 4wd trips even with some camping gear and four people on board. After retuning the suspension its a whole different thing, and yet it still has about the same load carrying capacity.
A lot of people's impressions come from what they normally drive or have driven in the past, or their expectations. A chunk of amarok owners for instance have come from hilux's, etc, so to them its okay. Or they expect it to ride like a truck and think it has to ride like a truck, so they think its good. Come from an old cadillac and you will feel like you are doing a round with mike tyson.
A lot of people's impressions come from what they normally drive or have driven in the past, or their expectations. A chunk of amarok owners for instance have come from hilux's, etc, so to them its okay. Or they expect it to ride like a truck and think it has to ride like a truck, so they think its good. Come from an old cadillac and you will feel like you are doing a round with mike tyson.
The single cabs are the worst, especially if they're empty. They've also got the base level seats. I got the Pajero because it has a ride that my wife could only just tolerate, the price was right and they're a handy honest car. Mate, after your Landy, most cars are going to feel like crap. My wife actually got a lift in a Ranger a few months back and said it wasn't bad at all, so maybe try one of them?
I just did a loop in the desert because there were signs saying Birdsville was cut off with floods. I went out along the French Line, back along the Rig Road and did the road from Oodnadatta to Dalhousie via Pedirka which I hadn't done before. I was going to stop at Bendleby on the way home but I had no spare and was running on a damaged tyre.
Rhett HS
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I test drove a Ranger and found it a tad more comfortable than the Amarok, however the ranger felt like two vehicles, a front and a back, and the handling was a long way behind. I knew i would modify either so for many reasons chose the amarok. Of course i do like the std extended breathers and low range of the ranger, and the ranger raptor is another thing altogether.
Albynsw
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I test drove an Amarok and passed on it because of my fussy wife. I drove to Tamworth from Sydney for the test drive too.
So the Paj is more comfortable than the Amarok? Wouldn’t of thought there would be much in it.
I don't get it either. I've driven probably 6 Amaroks and half of them drive nice and the others ordinary. That's why I specifically wanted to drive the actual car being sold. The Paj is fine, just a bit noisy, rough around the edges and the seats very basic. I'm liking it better every day, it's been like swapping a hot girl for one who cooks good....excuse my sexist comment.
Albynsw
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I don't get it either. I've driven probably 6 Amaroks and half of them drive nice and the others ordinary. That's why I specifically wanted to drive the actual car being sold. The Paj is fine, just a bit noisy, rough around the edges and the seats very basic. I'm liking it better every day, it's been like swapping a hot girl for one who cooks good....excuse my sexist comment.
Sounds like you bought a 70 series
Rhett HS
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I find the amarok seats and sitting position a dream. You can spend hours and hours behind the wheel and hop out feeling fine. Its a common comment from amarok owners.
Any wagon will typically have more comfortable rear suspension than any ute. That being said my retuned amarok is a more comfortable ride overall than say a nissan patrol with a 2" lift, and a defender, but before it was retuned it wasnt.
Any wagon will typically have more comfortable rear suspension than any ute. That being said my retuned amarok is a more comfortable ride overall than say a nissan patrol with a 2" lift, and a defender, but before it was retuned it wasnt.
Albynsw
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Mate, everything is more comfortable than a Defender
The park bench of motor vehicles
Albynsw
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I remember test driving a Defender with the offset seating position and wondered if it would be more comfortable to drive from the passenger seat
Note to Landrover It is always good to start your basic vehicle planning design with the driving position behind the steering wheel.
and wondered if it would be more comfortable to drive from the passenger seat Note to Landrover It is always good to start your basic vehicle planning design with the driving position behind the steering wheel.