Anyone running TOYO tyres

Muddybugga

Member
HI All ..muddy as shit here ..just thinking of changing me rims to 16' s so looking at tyre options ..thinking 265,75.16 TOYO Muds anyone has or had them ,and are they a ok brand ..looking for a softer ride ,got 275-65-17 BF'S .all terrain ..good for street ,but streets are not my thing ,lol
 

Rusty Panels

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I'm running Toyo Open Country ATII on my Everest. Only done about 10k but they tick all the boxes so far. They reckon they're good for 80k which would be good. They seem to grip well in the wet and the dry and have been good on some greasy dirt roads that I've been on lately after heavy rain and showed no sign of clogging up. A little noisier than I thought they'd be but that's not a problem.
 

cam04

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OCMT’s are about the heaviest carcass LT radial on the market. Check their weight against others. Comfort levels are not going to be high. They are the radial of choice for desert explorers etc though.
 

Muddybugga

Member
thanks for the comments ,I reckon i will get a bit softer ride going to the 75 series and not worries about noise either rusty ,but I'm in the mud a lot exploring surfing spots ,so tuff is good ...thanks cam 04 ..interesting info on toughness .and mike sounds like you have a Toyo following going on there ..they must be good ..
 

mikehzz

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thanks for the comments ,I reckon i will get a bit softer ride going to the 75 series and not worries about noise either rusty ,but I'm in the mud a lot exploring surfing spots ,so tuff is good ...thanks cam 04 ..interesting info on toughness .and mike sounds like you have a Toyo following going on there ..they must be good ..
I can't comment on the MT's as we avoid mud like the plague. :)
 

Muddybugga

Member
the clay craps the worst ..holding it straight going down hills ..had to put over sized mud flaps on, cause i got sick of washing the truck
Still gets covered ...i'm charging a carton of beer now ,sick of pulling dumb tourist out ,even though the sign says impassable when wet ..on a 35 degree clay hill ..:rolleyes:
 

CTL

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Tried a set of Toyo OC ATIIs, didn’t rate them, sold them after 10K kms. Appears others have had better experiences.
 

hulsty

Active Member
Had Toyo muds, they rode smooth and had good grip, on a different vehicle had AT2's, quite, smooth and good road handling with decent offroad grip.

If you have a 75 series, tyres alone are not going to improve the ride.
 

Muddybugga

Member
Had Toyo muds, they rode smooth and had good grip, on a different vehicle had AT2's, quite, smooth and good road handling with decent offroad grip.

If you have a 75 series, tyres alone are not going to improve the ride.
I noticed heaps of difference when changing from 70 to 75 last time on my mitzy challenger .smoother ride for sure ..on my mazda 4b i went back to 70 because it sucked to much juice ..being a 2,6 petrol ..

i ride em all at 25 .no highways here on Norfolk Is.just goat tracks ..for roads ..and lots of mud and hills .and bloody pot holes .

thanks for your in put on the TOYO tyres ..
 

mac_man_luke

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I run Toyo MTs on my cruiser

They are a great tyre and iv had no issues and good life out of them
but they are HEAVY! Around 5+kgs a tyre compared to most others in a 35 which has got to hurt power/econnomy
looking to try the toyo RT next time, about 6kg each lighter and still seem to have a good reputation. (but that could be a while haha)
 

paulyg

Member
Had both the the Toyo MTs and RTs, very heavy and tuff tyres, MTs good in mud and dirt, only ok on wet bitumen.
RTs pretty good in mud ,good on dirt and better on wet bitumen..
I am trying KM3s at the moment, haven't tryed them in much mud yet, but just as good on dirt and much better on wet bitumen
 

littleGem

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I've had toyo RT's in 265/75R16 for 2 years now on my Dmax, and honestly can't speak high enough of there praises, I love them so much get a set of 35's on my GU.
 

Joe Fury

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G'day Adventurers

I know this is going to go down like a lead balloon, but much like the heated discussions regarding vehicle brands and types, so folk 'out there' get rather bitter and twisted when it comes to a brand name or product they are happy with or quite truthfully something they've spent a lot of hard earned Dollars on and then ~ someone else gives that brand name or product a review that says it's nothing but crap, so don't waste your money and Bingo the battle lines are drawn and the brawling begins.

So the question is 'anyone running Toyo tyres?

Lots of detailed answers and mostly positive reports on the Toyo RT tyres, this is where my review differs greatly from the main stream, but I trust it does not start a mud slinging session, now my personal experiences with the Toyo tyre brand is all based on one and only one set of Toyo RT 285 - 75r x 16 tyres, which were purchased and fitted to my Land Cruiser 80 Series Sahara wagon, this is a set of six (6) brand new tyres and a mandatory wheel alignment which technically ensures these new tyres have a decent start to their service life on the Cruiser.

As anyone knows, buying a set of six relatively large tyres is an expensive undertaking, even if the whole exercise is done at a major discount tyre outlet in a capital city, where competition for your business/dollar is almost ruthless, simply because you the customer can just walk away if the price is not right.

I am NO LONGER running Toyo RT tyres and I can't see myself ever buying Toyo tyres again, no matter how good the reviews might be, simply because these brand new Toyo RT tyres at the time could have cost my wife and my self ~ our lives!

We were just four Kilometres away from the tyre fitters premises and possibly 500 metres from where we were based in the northern suburbs of Perth WA. when the Land Cruiser lost road grip and slid sideways on a down hill/slope on a major arterial road in heavy peak hour traffic, it had rained enough to use the windscreen wipers, but it was sunny at the time. My Cruiser is no lightweight but it carries the weight quite comfortably with the aid of better than standard springs, shock absorbers and all the associated suspension gear that actually keeps the vehicle level, stable and safe as a caravan towing/touring and off road capable four wheel drive, I must state, the entire braking system was over hauled several weeks prior to this actual incident and YES it had rained in that time, the only thing that was an unknown were the Toyo RT's, the tyres that came off and scrapped were very well worn mixture of BFG mud terrains, and Micky T ATZ P3's and all these tyres were well past their use by date, but did not lose grip on any surface wet or dry.

Anyway here we were, jammed hard up against the LH lane curb on a super busy road, with no way of turning the steering to the right, so I just plowed ahead along the curb, something like a train on its tracks but scuffing the sidewalls really hard, wet rubber and concrete are not good all at the same time.

Back to the tyre fitters the next day, my experience described to the manager and the people directly involved in the sale of and the fitting of these Toyo RT tyres ~ their conclusion was I was going too fast at the time, my answer was an emphatic BULLSHIT, then one of the gang of four says, wet white road markings could have made the car lose grip/control, another BULLSHIT remark came from me, only because all the road markings were still ahead of where things went pear shaped!

Then a classic retort from Mr Manager ~ must have been the 'mould release agent' still on the tyres, so you can guess what my comment to his mould release statement was, Yep another Bullshit Mate.

So for just over two years of service on the Cruiser with close to 70,000 K's clocked, and just a single puncture from a piece of dry Mulga, I could not kill these things and the place where I chose to live and willfully explore usually solo vehicle and always hard core off road, is the inland Pilbara it can be brutal at times on both man and machine, but as I said I could not kill these Toyo RT's but I was never comfortable with their lack of grip on wet asphalt simply because they were crap from day one and as such I will never spend my hard earned money buying Toyo Tyres/Tires.

My last trip to the big smoke, in May of this year saw the Toyo's go to the recyclers and my hard earned dollars went on a set of six brand new Falken Wildpeak A/T's 285 - 75r X 16 ~ not sure what the next two years might bring with these made in Thailand tyres but I will certainly keep you informed.

Safe travels : Joe Fury
 

discomatt

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Any and all brand new tires are deadly if un scrubbed on a wet road, when I rode motor bikes if it was wet and I had to pick up the bike with brand new tires I would take some sand paper to give them a scuff up, common when racing cars and go carts to scuff up tires if going straight out onto a wet track, been there and done that.
I have had 1 set of Toyo muds and was impressed with grip in all conditions, excellent strength, average wear, ran them between 8 and 40 psi depending car load and conditions
 

Toyasaurus

Active Member
Hey Joe.
If I`m reading you comment correctly you only had 3ks on the tyres when they let go correct?
If so it`s not the fault of the tyres, the shop that sold them to you should have warned you that the tyres needed to have the
preservative scrubbed off before driving in the wet or at speed.
Matt`s correct, you should always scrub new tyres.
 

Joe Fury

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Hey Joe.
If I`m reading you comment correctly you only had 3ks on the tyres when they let go correct?
If so it`s not the fault of the tyres, the shop that sold them to you should have warned you that the tyres needed to have the
preservative scrubbed off before driving in the wet or at speed.
Matt`s correct, you should always scrub new tyres.
G'day Toyasaurus ~ Matt

Well I'll be stuffed, so now a new tyre buyer has to wash and scrub the tyres with 'sand paper' before he/she or what ever gender suits, before driving away from the tyre fitters!

This smacks of tyre shop manager and his cohorts reasons and conclusions they tried to peddle off with me, sorry fellows, but that sounds like Bullshit, I hope you don't think these Toyo's were the first ever set of new tyres I've ever purchased and had fitted to my vehicle.

But I do admit they were the first ever Toyo RT's and the absolute last ever Toyo tyre of any description, never ever again!

Just to finish things off regarding the wash/scrub with sand paper scenario, then I am lucky to be alive still, because it absolutely pissed down with rain the second night after having the Falken's on the Cruiser and I was a little apprehensive at first with the new tyres, but no loss of grip and no issues so far, the total loss of control happened at about 4 kilometres from the tyre shop, the wheel alignment process saw the mechanic take my Cruiser for two relatively quick but fast runs through the local industrial area, before handing the car back to me and judging buy the GPS plot and the dash cam footage he wasn't on a Sunday drive.

Thanks for your comment(s)

Safe travels : Joe Fury
 

Toyasaurus

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Sarcasm aside, the point is that all new tyres have a preservative on them.
You were just unlucky enough to hit the right combination of things and it went south in a big way.
It doesn`t take long to wash it off just in normal driving, maybe 10-20ks longer shorter depends on the tyres.
Sandpaper, I think Matt was talking about race tyre`s for bikes, I had to do the same thing except I used acetone on the bike I was crewing for.

No I have never had toyo tyres, BFG, Coopers, Kumo`s, plus many others,
I`m simply pointing out that maybe a combination of factor`s caught you that day,
By the way the road is always at its most slippery when the light rain starts.

But hey, I`m glade it all worked out for you and the missus.
 
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