Another war.

Albynsw

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What is still unclear to me is if the Israelis are living/ occupying Palistinian land where exactly is their rightful historical homeland?
( I didn’t listen at school)
 

discomatt

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What is still unclear to me is if the Israelis are living/ occupying Palistinian land where exactly is their rightful historical homeland?
( I didn’t listen at school)
Not sure but you would have to go back to biblical studies to find out :p
 

Repairs By Pete

New Member
Throughout school we started with the kids of those who emigrated from Europe following WW2 (Poms, Italians, Greeks, Poles, Czechs, Hungarians, Serbs, Croats, etc), then came the kids from Indo-China during and following the Vietnam War (Viets, Cambodians, Lao), and lastly the mobs from the Middle East during the Lebanese War - Christians and Muslims.

One thing observed, it's not the nationality, religion, culture, etc that makes people aggressive or less trustworthy, it's what they're exposed to on a daily basis and learning to survive in such circumstances of war, death, brutality and dodgy politics. For right or wrong, parents pass these ideas down to their kids just to ensure they survive.

We'd reflect the same levels of aggressiveness and scepticism if constantly exposed to those environments.
Some migrants assimilated to the Australian way of life, others chose to remain unchanged and expect Australia to change for them. Differences and conflicts happen within families and on a greater scale between countries and factions. We should be looking to make the world a better place. Countries should rid themselves of extremists within and not allow them to bring conflict on a greater scale between countries. I feel for the innocent victims and children. It takes generations to dilute the scars and impact of wars.
 

boobook

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As they say, the first casualty of War, is the truth. There have been many counterclaims on the deaths. It is a fact though that Hamas is a terrorist group and they bombed, brutally murdered and tortured civilians in Israel, which led to the latest escalation.

It's going to get a lot worse and spread. At work, we have software R&D in some (non-Middle East) areas with a large Arabic worker population. We recently used some Israeli software for integration. Nothing big. Those R&D centres refuse to have anything to do with the Israelis to get the software system working. I was surprised they were so emphatic about it. I'm told the Arab sentiment is about to boil over and the situation is about to regionally escalate.
 
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boobook

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The timing of the war was perfect to give Labor a distraction now they are in limbo with the Voice.

But, alas, Albo is like a deer in the headlights. In the seats Labor needs most, the Greens are pushing to endorse Palestine and condemn Israel, and Albanese is so lost for a position and saying so little, he is pissing everyone off. He has to keep the militant unions at bay.

Watch his support for Israel escalate in 1 week when he flies to the US to meet Biden. His speach writers must be working overtime figuring out how to offend no one. Which usually results in offending everyone.

( BTW is Albo ever in Australia?)
 

cookie64

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The timing of the war was perfect to give Labor a distraction now they are in limbo with the Voice.

But, alas, Albo is like a deer in the headlights. In the seats Labor needs most, the Greens are pushing to endorse Palestine and condemn Israel, and Albanese is so lost for a position and saying so little, he is pissing everyone off. He has to keep the militant unions at bay.

Watch his support for Israel escalate in 1 week when he flies to the US to meet Biden. His speach writers must be working overtime figuring out how to offend no one. Which usually results in offending everyone.

( BTW is Albo ever in Australia?)
Well Albo is busy burying himself further by stating "the way White People voted" he is a master of Division

The way White People voted
 

boobook

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Well Albo is busy burying himself further by stating "the way White People voted" he is a master of Division

The way White People voted

What happened to "It's not about Race"? That went out the window pretty quickly.

How to make a bad situation worse.

And now Labor has pushed past the voice and ignored the referendum result, hell-bent on truth and treaty. Only 2 weeks ago Albanese said its not about that, but now that's all it's about.

What part of 60% of voters, and every state, said NO doesn't he get?

It proves every fear people had in the lead up to the vote.
 
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Albynsw

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What is still unclear to me is if the Israelis are living/ occupying Palistinian land where exactly is their rightful historical homeland?
( I didn’t listen at school)

Is this the answer to my question? According to this lady Palistinians didn’t exist until the mid 1900’s and Jews occupied this land before the Muslin religion was invented
 

Albynsw

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And now Labor has pushed past the voice and ignored the referendum result, hell-bent on truth and treaty. Only 2 weeks ago Albanese said its not about that, but now that's all it's about.

This is the part that annoyed me the most, he has never been upfront and explained his vision and the bigger picture of the referendum so that people could make an informed decision. Luckily it didn’t get that far and they smelled a rat that something wasn’t quite right
 

LongRoad2Go

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The timing of the war was perfect to give Labor a distraction now they are in limbo with the Voice.

Reckon that's the main reason our politicians always open their mouths about something that is not our concern - just an attempt to distract us away from domestic events that they can't or don't want to address. We don't hear much coming from Poland, Norway, Monaco, Ecuador or Niger about the nastiness happening in Israel/Palestine, so why the heck is our Government beating the drum about it and consequently pissing off Jews and Muslims who live here! The mouse that roared! Let the UN deal with it, the Middle East is and always will be a shit-show.
 

Batts88

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What is still unclear to me is if the Israelis are living/ occupying Palistinian land where exactly is their rightful historical homeland?
( I didn’t listen at school)
I would put money on it if you survey the people in these regions most wouldn't know either there just like sheep one jumps .....
 

typhoeus

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So what's with the saying "we came to Australia for a better life"? I thought a better life would involve leaving all that behind. Obviously not.
We don't have that level of violence here, ,they came for that better better life. The demonstrations have been very calm I think
 
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