What you don't know you won't miss swaggie???
Are you serious....
There's a lot of tracks I won't experience and sure as hell I bloody miss them all
The Batemans Bay 4x4 Club looks after the South coast area relatively well mate. We are always out there and if there is something that needs doing we do it. We keep the place glass free and clean. Helps every little bit to put a little effort in.
As for what you don't know about can't hurt you. Sure Raf never got to experience Airly. However, he has seen videos photos and heard all about it and its that stuff that makes you want to go there in the first place. I have heard so much about Wirriba Ridge, but I am the wrong generation to have ever been able to experience it. I wasn't even double digits when it was closed.
I do believe the problem does come from a lot of 4wders who have no care or regard with what they do and how it will affect not only them but others. Then they complain about how the place has been closed.
Yalwal for example, the people who take cars in and burn them out. They themselves more than likely go there a lot, and don't think how it will affect them in the long run, thing is it wont affect them in the long run cause they will go around the gates oxy or grind them open.
Yet there are people out there who will clean up the place so we can continue to use it. Until NPWS and the other agencies can see that we are not all to be tarnished with the same label we are going to have the problem of locking everyone out.
The Batemans Bay 4x4 Club has been talking about a clean up day much like Earth hosted/assisted with previously and trying to break into some more media. However this could also have adverse effects showing that we (speaking in general terms) do leave rubbish behind. If we didn't there would be no need for clean up days.
My 2 cents worth. Hope it makes sense?
You want a bloody valid solution swaggie?
Sack the bloody lot of nsw national parks rangers & management!!!! they are so bloody incompetent its not funny
I have no problem with gates (in highly sensitive or high risk areas, they keep the dickheads out.
We should be able to get access to these gates however, if it means joining a club (liabilitie isues?), contributing to working bees (to clear fallen trees, illegally dumped rubbish etc etc) then so be it.
Small price to pay to be able to explore my backyard..........
just because some dickheads own 4wds, doesn't mean i or my mates deserve to be punished....
How do you know what i have done to try and keep the bush clean and accessible??
I haven't done much in the scheme of things, because i have only owned a 4by for just over a year..
What about all the older wheelers, who have spent most of their lives in low range, how come they have let it get to this stage with out putting up a fight, or real solution???
What you victorians don't realise, is you have the most progressive and accomodating park rangers (dse) when it comes to recreational activities in national parks.
Us new south welshmen and qlders however seem to be screwed! WE are stuck with these greeny nut bags, who want to lock the gate, so their mates in the 1% who can hike for days, are free to bum each other in privacy....
Not to mention the extra pressure on what little that is left open.... naturally the area will deteriorate quicker, hence giving them more ammo.
That being said i am still holding a glimmer of hope after hunting is finaly allowed in nsw national parks, we might start to see real change in the backwards thinking of npws........
I doubt they will change by themselves but hopefully some people may force them
swaggie wtf i thought this forum was dickhead free
So expressing ones opinion and views classes someone as a "dickhead"?
Referring to the comment I made, it was after a shit day and a few beers, I vented my anger, as I'm sure most can understand. However I would never do it, I know it would be a step back in a losing battle if I/or anyone did.
Everyone wants a solution, yet how many actually believe this is going to happen, how long has the fight been going on? It's like our voices are going unheard, they continue to lock more gates, and I'm yet to hear of one being reopened!
Let's all just ignore what's going on and just be happy with what we have, so that by the time our kids are adults they'll know nothing but the city walls!
Look Russ the post was removed (well most of it).. So accept it could have been worded a lot better, or I'm just venting anger ii don't really expect people to act upon it... Simple..
Now as far as no one doing anything about it well that's just plain wrong... Go to 4wd action as Roothy has a stop the gates campaign, also we had a Free the bush campaign, members chose to basically ignore it with only 2600 signatures... It was posted over several sites too, a lot were worried it was an email harvesting gimmick.. Wtf.. The guys put a lot of time and effort into getting up and running...
As for 4wd Action, we attended their Stockton rally, along with thousands of others, but what did it gain? Another locked gate, it's all quite discouraging. The "ignore everything and be happy with what we have" comment was a sarcastic comment
Now everyone here wants the same thing so enough with the bickering LOL, I thouht it was women who were meant to b!tch! LOL...
Craig isn't pursuing that site any more, so no point