70 series production officially paused.

LongRoad2Go

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For the record: I have made the decision to wait. Indefinitely...
I agree with your decision - it's a reliable and fit-for-purpose vehicle you've always wanted - same here.

Been a long time since I purchased a new car i.e. back in the days when you bargained on a fixed price, the order was placed, paid a deposit, and it actually arrived the following week all kitted out and ready to take home.

So not sure how it flows these days with exorbitant waiting times and delays.

Though it seems that unless buyers are able to lock in a final price and pay a deposit, the company has ‘you’ by the jewels. In the 79 Series instance, if they decide to add an extra cup holder or, say, some fantasy items like curtain airbags and decent seats, then the price goes up and the customer needs to add that to the bill. :(

In effect that is a negative term deposit! ‘Your’ money devalues AND the product increases in price! Doesn’t that happen in Third World dictatorships – a wheelbarrow of yesterday’s money to buy a loaf of bread?:eek:

Oh what a feeling!:D
 

Albynsw

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I agree with your decision - it's a reliable and fit-for-purpose vehicle you've always wanted - same here.

Been a long time since I purchased a new car i.e. back in the days when you bargained on a fixed price, the order was placed, paid a deposit, and it actually arrived the following week all kitted out and ready to take home.

So not sure how it flows these days with exorbitant waiting times and delays.

Though it seems that unless buyers are able to lock in a final price and pay a deposit, the company has ‘you’ by the jewels. In the 79 Series instance, if they decide to add an extra cup holder or, say, some fantasy items like curtain airbags and decent seats, then the price goes up and the customer needs to add that to the bill. :(

In effect that is a negative term deposit! ‘Your’ money devalues AND the product increases in price! Doesn’t that happen in Third World dictatorships – a wheelbarrow of yesterday’s money to buy a loaf of bread?:eek:

Oh what a feeling!:D

That is not correct at all, when you place your order the price is locked in, if it turns up with another cup holder you get it free. I have ordered a new car and it arrived with a tow kit installed but I did not ask for it and it was just good luck for me that they added it.
With Toyota at the moment because of the lengthy delays you pay $1,000 deposit and sign up for your agreed price and they are currently refunding the deposit if you decide not to wait
 

discomatt

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That is not correct at all, when you place your order the price is locked in, if it turns up with another cup holder you get it free. I have ordered a new car and it arrived with a tow kit installed but I did not ask for it and it was just good luck for me that they added it.
With Toyota at the moment because of the lengthy delays you pay $1,000 deposit and sign up for your agreed price and they are currently refunding the deposit if you decide not to wait
So are you saying IF I ordered a new 79 like I was considering 4 years ago, I could in fact end up with 2 cup holders AND a free tow kit, I wonder if I could push my luck and get more than 2 speakers and some extra safety gear?????
Holy crap, thinking about it I can sell my D4 for what I paid having experienced that "perma grin" D4 owners go on about, not lost a cent and still end up with the dream tough touring 4wd I was contemplation / planning.
I think this really needs some serious consideration now I am thinking about it:oops:
 

Albynsw

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So are you saying IF I ordered a new 79 like I was considering 4 years ago, I could in fact end up with 2 cup holders AND a free tow kit, I wonder if I could push my luck and get more than 2 speakers and some extra safety gear?????
Holy crap, thinking about it I can sell my D4 for what I paid having experienced that "perma grin" D4 owners go on about, not lost a cent and still end up with the dream tough touring 4wd I was contemplation / planning.
I think this really needs some serious consideration now I am thinking about it:oops:

Actually Matt the free tow bar was on a RR, dealer was surprised it was there too when it arrived
The free cup holder on a 70 is an unobtainable dream for all of us :)
 

discomatt

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Actually Matt the free tow bar was on a RR, dealer was surprised it was there too when it arrived
The free cup holder on a 70 is an unobtainable dream for all of us :)
the free tow bar was installed to soften the LR dealer costs and the 50% depreciation in 3 years
 

Albynsw

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A RR towbar, fair dinkum, thing of a number and triple it if you actually had to pay for it. :)

Funny you say that Mike, I wasn’t going to bother telling the rest of the story but seeing as though you prompted me ….

I didn’t order one in the first place because I couldn’t justify the price as I didn’t really need one as I towed my Tinnie with the ute and was happy with that
The physical bar was all there but the wiring loom wasn’t so I thought I may as well get it working for the added convenience seeing as though it was there
I enquired with the service department when I was getting a service about fitting the 7 pin trailer plug and it was going to cost over 2k to do it :eek:
I checked with a independent LR specialist workshop and an auto electrician and they both said they couldn’t do it as you need the dealer to program the system to activate the wiring loom
Needless to say I never had it wired up
 

discomatt

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Funny you say that Mike, I wasn’t going to bother telling the rest of the story but seeing as though you prompted me ….

I didn’t order one in the first place because I couldn’t justify the price as I didn’t really need one as I towed my Tinnie with the ute and was happy with that
The physical bar was all there but the wiring loom wasn’t so I thought I may as well get it working for the added convenience seeing as though it was there
I enquired with the service department when I was getting a service about fitting the 7 pin trailer plug and it was going to cost over 2k to do it :eek:
I checked with a independent LR specialist workshop and an auto electrician and they both said they couldn’t do it as you need the dealer to program the system to activate the wiring loom
Needless to say I never had it wired up
What model? That is weird that anything needed programming , never heard of that before. Blooming pieces of rubbish heaps....( Edited for the sack of keeping princess happy @boobook )
Sorry back to topic, car manufacture delays.
If something as basic and simple as a 70 has delays its going to be a very long wait for anything at the top end of the tech scale that requires more parts and probably safe to assume longer delays
 
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Albynsw

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What model? That is weird that anything needed programming , never heard of that before. Bloody shit heaps....
Sorry back to topic, car manufacture delays.
If something as basic and simple as a 70 has delays its going to be a very long wait for anything at the top end of the tech scale that requires more parts and probably safe to assume longer delays
Can’t remember exactly when I bought it but it was a 2006 or 2007 RR HSE.
They said they had to reprogram the computer to tell it it had a tow bar installed, probably a money making scam being a prestige car

Yes if Toyota is have part supply issues I expect the other brands are having the same issues across the board. I am hearing it is happening with machinery and other gear as well.
 

discomatt

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Can’t remember exactly when I bought it but it was a 2006 or 2007 RR HSE.
They said they had to reprogram the computer to tell it it had a tow bar installed, probably a money making scam being a prestige car

Yes if Toyota is have part supply issues I expect the other brands are having the same issues across the board. I am hearing it is happening with machinery and other gear as well.
Yep as I thought, typical dealer thievery, no programming needed but what is needed is a resistor built into the L/h indicator on the trailer or trailer plug so the computer picks up the led lights so the rear sensors, TC, ABS and stability control know the trailer is there.
Originally a issue with LR's due to the electronics but now very common for all manufacturers
 

Albynsw

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Yep as I thought, typical dealer thievery, no programming needed but what is needed is a resistor built into the L/h indicator on the trailer or trailer plug so the computer picks up the led lights so the rear sensors, TC, ABS and stability control know the trailer is there.
Originally a issue with LR's due to the electronics but now very common for all manufacturers

Was that a Canbus system model? It was from the era when BMW owned LR and it had Bosch electrics
 

discomatt

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BMW sold them to Ford in 2000, the canbus system was introduced in about 2003 as far as I know, having not researched the RR as much not 100% sure about them but the canbus system first appeared in the first Discovery 3 in 2003 so definitely a BMW hangover
 

Albynsw

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BMW sold them to Ford in 2000, the canbus system was introduced in about 2003 as far as I know, having not researched the RR as much not 100% sure about them but the canbus system first appeared in the first Discovery 3 in 2003 so definitely a BMW hangover

Sorry yes that was my previous RR that was BMW owned, I traded to this model and it was Ford owned. The dealer was telling me all the dramas they had at the factory as the English didn’t like being owned by a German company
 

Batts88

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Email from Toyota after waiting over 3 mths. since signing for my 76. I didn't contact them at all, this just arrived in my inbox.

"New Vehicle delivery Outlook":
"Our team apologies for the delay in delivering your vehicle and understands the frustrations this can cause.
Toyota Australia has just been advised that production of your vehicle has been delayed due to plant shutdowns in Japan caused by part shortages resulting from Covid-19 restrictions in SE Asia"

Apologies for this delay, we will do our best etc etc...

I'm on the verge of taking a Prado GXL
I thought there would be plenty in stock they're been making them since 1990
 

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joshinthecity

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That is not correct at all, when you place your order the price is locked in, if it turns up with another cup holder you get it free. I have ordered a new car and it arrived with a tow kit installed but I did not ask for it and it was just good luck for me that they added it.
With Toyota at the moment because of the lengthy delays you pay $1,000 deposit and sign up for your agreed price and they are currently refunding the deposit if you decide not to wait
This is correct.
 

Albynsw

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Just got the call that I am locked in for a September build so should take delivery in October. :cool: hopefully the planets align and the borders open at the same time
Dealer said that 70 series and RAV4 Hybrids are hit the hardest with delivery delays
 

joshinthecity

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Just got the call that I am locked in for a September build so should take delivery in October. :cool: hopefully the planets align and the borders open at the same time
Dealer said that 70 series and RAV4 Hybrids are hit the hardest with delivery delays
Good news Alby ! How can you have a Sept build when production is currently stopped though? Did the dealer have some info on this at all ?
 

Albynsw

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Good news Alby ! How can you have a Sept build when production is currently stopped though? Did the dealer have some info on this at all ?

The dealer received the confirmation from Toyota Australia, he didn’t day they had stopped because he said we are still running a lead time of 10 to 11 months but some dealerships are 18 months plus
 
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