4 wheel driving with a dual cab

[Freyta]

Probably a stupid question, so sorry.

I recently got myself a Triton, and am a bit unsure about the differences with 4 wheel driving with a ute compared to a 2 door Jeep Wrangler (what a beast they are! Pretty much are just point and shoot!).

I mean, with the Jeep for instance going up Billy Goats (at the 11:57 mark in this video), when we went up with some mates, I would go up on a diagonal line and then cross back to the center of the track after those ruts. Would you do the same for a dual cab?

Also, what else is there to look out for when going out bush in regards to a short wheel base vs the longer wheel base?

 

[Toyasaurus]

Hi Freyta.
The jeep and the triton have very different suspension setup`s.
Jeep coils and solid diff`s, lots of articulation.
Triton, Ifs in the front and solid diff with leaf springs in the back, if it`s a new one possibly some form of traction control.
You will have to choose your lines with care, also you have less clearance all round, approach, departure and ramp over angles.

I`m sure some of the peoples on here will add plenty to this.

 

[Triton14]

The wheel base of the Triton would also be a lot longer to wouldnt it?
That would affect your approach & exit angles in crossings, declines/accents etc

 

[Toyasaurus]

I guess I should have added that,
Note to self that, not everyone know what the angles mean.
Triton is quite correct, longer wheel base will be an advantage sometimes, others not so much.

 

[cam04]

Old mate in the vid basically didn’t pick a line because he clearly didn’t have to. You’ll want to pick a line in a triton. They have traction aids depending on what model you bought, but most dual cabs have woeful travel compared to live front ends.

 

[Lost1?]

If in doubt use a spotter when you first go out until you adjust to the new vehicle. The rear overhang is greater on a triton than most and there are plenty of unsuspecting operators that have sustained damage to the tub. Plenty of good advice from others is my assessment.

 

[John U]

Old mate in the vid basically didn’t pick a line because he clearly didn’t have to.

I think Tim has front and rear lockers. He's driving a patrol. He says at the start that he 'always uses his rear locker'.

 

[Freyta]

If in doubt use a spotter when you first go out until you adjust to the new vehicle. The rear overhang is greater on a triton than most and there are plenty of unsuspecting operators that have sustained damage to the tub. Plenty of good advice from others is my assessment.

Thanks, I'll follow the lines of other Utes in the convoy. We don't do crazy tracks, probably more like Tim Bates does vs the 4WD Action crew.

Old mate in the vid basically didn’t pick a line because he clearly didn’t have to. You’ll want to pick a line in a triton. They have traction aids depending on what model you bought, but most dual cabs have woeful travel compared to live front ends.

Yes I know that, I was just showing a situation I've been in before and asking advice for something like that.

The wheel base of the Triton would also be a lot longer to wouldnt it?
That would affect your approach & exit angles in crossings, declines/accents etc

Yeah, thanks mate . I suppose once I'm out there the feeling of the Triton will help a lot.

 

[Johnmo89]

Probably a stupid question, so sorry.

I recently got myself a Triton, and am a bit unsure about the differences with 4 wheel driving with a ute compared to a 2 door Jeep Wrangler (what a beast they are! Pretty much are just point and shoot!).

I mean, with the Jeep for instance going up Billy Goats (at the 11:57 mark in this video), when we went up with some mates, I would go up on a diagonal line and then cross back to the center of the track after those ruts. Would you do the same for a dual cab?

Also, what else is there to look out for when going out bush in regards to a short wheel base vs the longer wheel base?

I drove Ford Bronco 92 for 12 years. I recently changed it to a Ford Ranger with a double cab. The car is much longer than the previous one. This also naturally affects the patency, cos the weight is much greater. At first it will be difficult, my friend. But you will quickly get used to it. It took me two weeks to do this. The main thing at first is not to try to be the "king of off-road" and be careful when ldriving narrow streets and when parking in reverse (the wall will come closer to you much sooner than you think)

 

[nitrobrent]

Have never driven a tradie ute off road, but have watched plenty break cv's and steering arms.
Personally, I'd twin lock it, so you can take your time and have less stress on everything ,if you want to do any hard stuff.
The see-sawing from no flex , and the spinning wheel hitting the ground puts alot of stress on gear.
Take your time, who cares if you have to try a few different lines

 

[Jackolux]

I have drive and ridden dirt bikes up Billy Goats plenty of times first time way back in the early 1970's , I have seen it at its best and worst .
Its never really been a problem even for completely stock 4wds , I have even seen a stock Great Wall drive it without any problems
I know Tim likes his lockers and yes they are great but I wouldn't bother locking right from the bottom , my last 2 4wds were double locked the Y62 only has a rear , I might lock the front

 

[cam04]

The beauty of throwing in a locker in a tradie Ute with tiny CV’s and usually bigger tyres is that the driveline becomes anchored to whichever locker you use and the other end can’t spin up then drop a tyre like nitrobrent is saying - traction control is great, but lockers will save the driveline and allow you to wander up technical stuff without breaking gear - usually haha.

 

[Jackolux]

Yep cam I agree you are much more likely to break something without lockers ( unless you are a complete DH ) a locked and even better still a double locked 4wd can be driven much slower over really rough terrain , combine that with a auto trans and its even better . I don't care how good TC is , lockers win .